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JOHN

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2008 2:26 pm
Post subject: A vaccine given to babies could increase the risk of childhood asthma
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A vaccine given to babies could increase the risk of childhood asthma
By Beezy Marsh
Last updated at 12:12 AM on 21st October 2008

A vaccination given to babies has been linked to asthma.

Experts believe the diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough jabs might
provoke an immune system response which predisposes the body to the lung
condition.

But delaying the vaccines by two months from the recommended age
dramatically reduces the risk, doctors found.


They set out to test a theory that the timing of the triple jab affects the
development of childhood asthma.

Vaccine: Is it too early?

For the study, 11,531 children received four doses of the combined DTP jab.
Babies are supposed to have their first dose by the age of two months.

It was found the likelihood of developing asthma by the age of seven was
halved if this initial dose was delayed by two months.

Of nearly 5,000 babies studied who had the jab at the scheduled age, 13.8
per cent developed asthma.

This compared with a rate of 5.9 per cent in babies who were four months or
older at first DTP immunisation.

The second, third and fourth doses of DTP were to be given at four months,
six months and 18 months.

Researchers at Manitoba Institute for Child Health and the University of
Manitoba, in Canada, also found a decreased likelihood of asthma if the
other doses were delayed, but the strongest evidence was seen in relation to
the delay of the first dose.

Only five per cent of children who had delays in all of their DTP jabs went
on to develop asthma.

This figure jumped to 12 per cent among children who followed the
immunisation schedule, it was reported in the Journal of Allergy and
Clinical Immunology. The UK has the highest prevalence of asthma in children
aged 13 and 14 worldwide. One in 11 children is affected.

Vaccination could increase the risk of asthma

The Canadian children mainly received a type of DTP jab given to millions of
UK children until 2004.

However, some also received the newer form of the jab, containing a
different type of whooping cough vaccine, called acellular pertussis.

This DTaP vaccine was phased into the UK during 2004. It is given at two
months in combination with vaccines against polio and Hib disease - a type
of influenza affecting babies.

Babies also receive vaccination against pneumococcal disease at the same
time. Some believe the volume of jabs overloads their immune systems.

This theory, however, is discounted by the Department of Health and all the
Royal Colleges.

Dr Richard Halvorsen, author of The Truth About Vaccines, who advocates
delays between immunisations, said: 'This is a very interesting study which
the Government should look at.

'This study doesn't prove the immunisation schedule we use causes a problem
but it is stupid not to consider it.'

A Department of Health spokesman said 'Several large studies have looked at
whether childhood vaccines can cause asthma or allergies - they have found
no evidence for this.'

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1079259/A-vaccine-given-babi...increas
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D. C. Sessions

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:54 am
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JOHN wrote:

> Experts believe the diphtheria, tetanus and whooping cough jabs might
> provoke an immune system response which predisposes the body to the lung
> condition.

Or, alternately, kids who live in cities are more likely to get
their shots on time compared to rural kids who get early exposure
to dirt, with all of its probiotics.

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Mike

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:25 am
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JOHN wrote:
> A vaccine given to babies could increase the risk of childhood asthma
> By Beezy Marsh

<snip>

It deserves to be noted that the vaccine used was DPT and not DTaP.
The authors are aware of that and make the distinction clear.

Quote:
********************************************************************
The Canadian children mainly received a type of DTP jab given to
millions of UK children until 2004.
However, some also received the newer form of the jab, containing a
different type of whooping cough vaccine, called acellular pertussis.
This DTaP vaccine was phased into the UK during 2004.
********************************************************************

It is clearly spelled out in the study itself:
http://www.jacionline.org/article/S0091-6749(07)02379-2/abstract

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This was a retrospective longitudinal study of a cohort of children born
in Manitoba in 1995.
[Comment: DTaP was introduced in Canada only in 1997].
<...>
We found a negative association between delay in administration of the
first dose of *whole-cell* DPT immunization in childhood and the
development of asthma.
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Indeed, whole cell DPT may be nasty, it accounts for more than 50% of
awards in vaccine court in the USA. Thousands of children became brain
damaged, it is not impossible that many more developed asthma.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2008 7:01 am
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On Oct 23, 12:08 am, Mike <M... RemoveThis @xyz.xxx> wrote:
> JOHN wrote:
> > A vaccine given to babies could increase the risk of childhood asthma
> > By Beezy Marsh

Where is the control group in all these studies, you know, the data
from thousands of unvaccinated children?

DrCee
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Mike

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:25 am
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drceephd.DeleteThis@insightbb.com wrote:
> On Oct 23, 12:08 am, Mike <M....DeleteThis@xyz.xxx> wrote:
>> JOHN wrote:
>>> A vaccine given to babies could increase the risk of childhood asthma
>>> By Beezy Marsh
>
The comparison was between those who got it as scheduled and those who
got it later.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2008 3:07 am
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"JOHN" <john.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>A vaccine given to babies could increase the risk of childhood asthma


Get a life and a brain.
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