paralyzed after flu shot

On Oct 28, 11:54 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....TakeThisOut@ratbags.com> wrote:
> CitizenJimserac<Jimse....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 25, 8:20 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....TakeThisOut@ratbags.com> wrote:
> >> Jeff <kidsdoc2....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Peter Bowditch wrote:
> >> >> CitizenJimserac<Jimse....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >>> On Oct 24, 4:17 am, "JOHN" <j....TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>  http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2008/10/22/bc-fku-shot-paralysis.html
>
> >> >>>> [2008 Oct] B.C. man paralyzed after flu shot warns of risks  The neurologist
> >> >>>> diagnosed Ryan with Guillain-Barré syndrome, an autoimmune disease that
> >> >>>> attacks the nervous system.  He spent the next 10 weeks recovering in
> >> >>>> hospital, including three weeks in intensive care, barely able to breathe or
> >> >>>> eat for himself.  "My face was paralyzed. I had no feeling inside my mouth.
> >> >>>> I couldn't feel my tongue. My left eye wouldn't close so it had to be taped
> >> >>>> shut to sleep," he said. The illness progressed into a lifelong condition
> >> >>>> known as chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (CIDP), and a
> >> >>>> year later he remains heavily medicated, unable to work, and has memory
> >> >>>> problems.  Although the disease is in remission, he is not expected to make
> >> >>>> a full recovery, and the chronic condition could return at any point in the
> >> >>>> future.
> >> >>> Guillain-Barre' is often misdiagnosed as polio, as was the case with
> >> >>> President Franklin Delano
> >> >>> Roosevelt.
>
> >> >>> CitizenJimserac
>
> >> >> Back to that piece of nonsense, I see. I know that recycling garbage
> >> >> is in vogue but you make it an art form.
>
> >> >What piece of nonsense?http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14562158
>
> >> >Jeff
>
> >> CJ was using it to attack the polio vaccination campaign. Apparently,
> >> if FDR didn't have polio then the polio scare was a furphy, the March
> >> of Dimes was a fraud and polio vaccination wasn't ever necessary.
> >> Remember that CJ is a fully paid-up anti-vaccination liar.
>
> >Peter BOINDEXTER!!!!
>
> >Again an expert - this time on VACCINATIONS!!!
>
> >And you think I'm a "paid-up" anti-vaccination liar!!!!
>
> >Who, pray tell, do you think is paying me?
>
> Add unfamiliarity with common figures of speech to your collection of
> ignorance.
>
>
>
> >I'm intrigued.
>
> >> That was the same reference that he cited. Note that it appears in a
> >> journal of biography, which is not necessarily the same as science.
>
> >Oh WOW, Boindexeter here is talking about "science" -
> >so you'd never know that he's never actually walked into
> >a Homeopathy convention and discussed ANYTHING with real scientists.
>
> I don't know who this "Boindexeter" is.

Yeah apparently "Dick" Schultz couldn't believe I was referring to HIM
AS DICK either.

Boindexter is a play on "Poindexter" the scientific young man in the
Felix the Cat cartoons.

I've discovered, particularly with regard to Dick, that intelligent
and polite
conversation does not work. (Did you hear that dufus?)
But with insults, I actually got Dick to talk about chemistry, give
some information,
and he even forgot to put the "You don't have a clue" at the end of
his post.

Felix the Cat, probably never shown down under, Pity.

Talk later Boinee - but meanwhile I'm curious - HAVE YOU EVER ACTUALLY
READ
A BOOK ON HOMEOPATHY.... ANY BOOK?

Citizen Jimserac

On Oct 28, 11:54 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn... RemoveThis @ratbags.com> wrote:
> CitizenJimserac<Jimse... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Oct 25, 8:20 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn... RemoveThis @ratbags.com> wrote:
> >> Jeff <kidsdoc2... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> >Peter Bowditch wrote:
> >> >> CitizenJimserac<Jimse... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> >>> On Oct 24, 4:17 am, "JOHN" <j... RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> >> >>>>  http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2008/10/22/bc-fku-shot-paralysis.html
>
> >> >>>> [2008 Oct] B.C. man paralyzed after flu shot warns of risks  The neurologist
> >> >>>> diagnosed Ryan with Guillain-Barré syndrome, an autoimmune disease that
> >> >>>> attacks the nervous system.  He spent the next 10 weeks recovering in
> >> >>>> hospital, including three weeks in intensive care, barely able to breathe or
> >> >>>> eat for himself.  "My face was paralyzed. I had no feeling inside my mouth.
> >> >>>> I couldn't feel my tongue. My left eye wouldn't close so it had to be taped
> >> >>>> shut to sleep," he said. The illness progressed into a lifelong condition
> >> >>>> known as chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (CIDP), and a
> >> >>>> year later he remains heavily medicated, unable to work, and has memory
> >> >>>> problems.  Although the disease is in remission, he is not expected to make
> >> >>>> a full recovery, and the chronic condition could return at any point in the
> >> >>>> future.
> >> >>> Guillain-Barre' is often misdiagnosed as polio, as was the case with
> >> >>> President Franklin Delano
> >> >>> Roosevelt.
>
> >> >>> CitizenJimserac
>
> >> >> Back to that piece of nonsense, I see. I know that recycling garbage
> >> >> is in vogue but you make it an art form.
>
> >> >What piece of nonsense?http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14562158
>
> >> >Jeff
>
> >> CJ was using it to attack the polio vaccination campaign. Apparently,
> >> if FDR didn't have polio then the polio scare was a furphy, the March
> >> of Dimes was a fraud and polio vaccination wasn't ever necessary.
> >> Remember that CJ is a fully paid-up anti-vaccination liar.
>
> >Peter BOINDEXTER!!!!
>
> >Again an expert - this time on VACCINATIONS!!!
>
> >And you think I'm a "paid-up" anti-vaccination liar!!!!
>
> >Who, pray tell, do you think is paying me?
>
> Add unfamiliarity with common figures of speech to your collection of
> ignorance.
>

OK Boinee!
Like later dude.

Citizen Jimserac

On Oct 29, 10:08 am, schu... DeleteThis @mail.biu.ack.il (Richard Schultz) wrote:
> In misc.health.alternative CitizenJimserac<Jimse... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
> : Yeah apparently "Dick" Schultz couldn't believe I was referring to HIM
> : AS DICK either.
>
> Who is this "Dick" Schultz to whom you keep referring?
>

A COMPLETE NOBODY, I can assure you!

CJ

In misc.health.alternative Citizen Jimserac <Jimserac.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

: Yeah apparently "Dick" Schultz couldn't believe I was referring to HIM
: AS DICK either.

Who is this "Dick" Schultz to whom you keep referring?

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Opinions expressed are mine alone, and not those of Bar-Ilan University
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On Oct 29, 4:58 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn... RemoveThis @ratbags.com> wrote:


>
> >Talk later Boinee - but meanwhile I'm curious - HAVE YOU EVER ACTUALLY
> >READ
> >A BOOK ON HOMEOPATHY.... ANY BOOK?
>
> I quoted from one here a couple of days ago. Please try to keep up.
>

Heaven forbid!! I don't know how I missed that since I read
every single word and posting that you post, so packed with
information,
details and links they are (??!!), oh yes, can't see how I missed it.

Talk later Bonehead.

Citizen Jimserac

On Oct 29, 4:58 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....TakeThisOut@ratbags.com> wrote:
> Citizen Jimserac <Jimse....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> <snip much repetition>
>
> >> I don't know who this "Boindexeter" is.
>
> >Yeah apparently "Dick" Schultz couldn't believe I was referring to HIM
> >AS DICK either.
>
> >Boindexter is a play on "Poindexter" the scientific young man in the
> >Felix the Cat cartoons.
>
> Yes, I knew that. I just wondered who you were referring to, as there
> is nobody here by that name and only a kindergarten child would find
> amusement in pretending that somebody had a funny name.

Kindergarten or left back in pre-school.

> >I've discovered, particularly with regard to Dick, that intelligent
> >and polite
> >conversation does not work.  (Did you hear that dufus?)
> >But with insults, I actually got Dick to talk about chemistry, give
> >some information,
> >and he even forgot to put the "You don't have a clue" at the end of
> >his post.
>
> >Felix the Cat, probably never shown down under, Pity.

Schultz is not 'down under". Add geography to your ever growing list
of ignorance.

> Felix the Cat was invented by an Australian, Pat Sullivan. Add another
> data point to your ignorance statistics.

Chuckle.

> >Talk later Boinee - but meanwhile I'm curious - HAVE YOU EVER ACTUALLY
> >READ
> >A BOOK ON HOMEOPATHY.... ANY BOOK?
>
> I quoted from one here a couple of days ago. Please try to keep up.

Jimmy has trouble trying to stayat a steadsy rate of falling behind.

On Oct 29, 5:17 pm, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 29, 4:58 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....RemoveThis@ratbags.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > >Talk later Boinee - but meanwhile I'm curious - HAVE YOU EVER ACTUALLY
> > >READ
> > >A BOOK ON HOMEOPATHY.... ANY BOOK?
>
> > I quoted from one here a couple of days ago. Please try to keep up.
>
> Heaven forbid!!   I don't know how I missed that since I read
> every single word and posting that you post, so packed with
> information,
> details and links they are (??!!), oh yes, can't see how I missed it.

Easy. People who suffer from rectocrania, like you, have trouble
seeing anything.

>
> Talk later Bonehead.
>
> Citizen Jimserac

Citizen Jimserac <Jimserac.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

<snip much repetition>

>> I don't know who this "Boindexeter" is.
>
>Yeah apparently "Dick" Schultz couldn't believe I was referring to HIM
>AS DICK either.
>
>Boindexter is a play on "Poindexter" the scientific young man in the
>Felix the Cat cartoons.

Yes, I knew that. I just wondered who you were referring to, as there
is nobody here by that name and only a kindergarten child would find
amusement in pretending that somebody had a funny name.

>
>I've discovered, particularly with regard to Dick, that intelligent
>and polite
>conversation does not work. (Did you hear that dufus?)
>But with insults, I actually got Dick to talk about chemistry, give
>some information,
>and he even forgot to put the "You don't have a clue" at the end of
>his post.
>
>Felix the Cat, probably never shown down under, Pity.

Felix the Cat was invented by an Australian, Pat Sullivan. Add another
data point to your ignorance statistics.

>
>Talk later Boinee - but meanwhile I'm curious - HAVE YOU EVER ACTUALLY
>READ
>A BOOK ON HOMEOPATHY.... ANY BOOK?

I quoted from one here a couple of days ago. Please try to keep up.


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On Oct 25, 2:49 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 24, 9:00 pm, Jeff <kidsdoc2... RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > CitizenJimseracwrote:
> > > On Oct 24, 4:17 am, "JOHN" <j... RemoveThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> > >>  http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2008/10/22/bc-fku-shot-paralysis.html
>
> > >> [2008 Oct] B.C. man paralyzed after flu shot warns of risks  The neurologist
> > >> diagnosed Ryan with Guillain-Barré syndrome, an autoimmune disease that
> > >> attacks the nervous system.  He spent the next 10 weeks recovering in
> > >> hospital, including three weeks in intensive care, barely able to breathe or
> > >> eat for himself.  "My face was paralyzed. I had no feeling inside my mouth.
> > >> I couldn't feel my tongue. My left eye wouldn't close so it had to be taped
> > >> shut to sleep," he said. The illness progressed into a lifelong condition
> > >> known as chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (CIDP), and a
> > >> year later he remains heavily medicated, unable to work, and has memory
> > >> problems.  Although the disease is in remission, he is not expected to make
> > >> a full recovery, and the chronic condition could return at any point in the
> > >> future.
>
> > > Guillain-Barre' is often misdiagnosed as polio, as was the case with
> > > President Franklin Delano
> > > Roosevelt.
>
> > > CitizenJimserac
>
> > Actually, we don't know what Roosevelt, although it is more likely he
> > had GBS rather than polio.
>
> > Jeff-
>
> I sent an email to a well known neurologist-blogger about this, and he
> said thart he tended to agree. He is researching this, and will write
> a blog article about it in the future. He will use facts.

Oh he will use FACTS!!!

Well, glad to hear that.

Citizen Jimserac

On Nov 15, 9:09 am, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Oct 25, 2:49 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Oct 24, 9:00 pm, Jeff <kidsdoc2....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > CitizenJimseracwrote:
> > > > On Oct 24, 4:17 am, "JOHN" <j....DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote:
> > > >>  http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2008/10/22/bc-fku-shot-paralysis..html
>
> > > >> [2008 Oct] B.C. man paralyzed after flu shot warns of risks  The neurologist
> > > >> diagnosed Ryan with Guillain-Barré syndrome, an autoimmune disease that
> > > >> attacks the nervous system.  He spent the next 10 weeks recovering in
> > > >> hospital, including three weeks in intensive care, barely able to breathe or
> > > >> eat for himself.  "My face was paralyzed. I had no feeling inside my mouth.
> > > >> I couldn't feel my tongue. My left eye wouldn't close so it had to be taped
> > > >> shut to sleep," he said. The illness progressed into a lifelong condition
> > > >> known as chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (CIDP), and a
> > > >> year later he remains heavily medicated, unable to work, and has memory
> > > >> problems.  Although the disease is in remission, he is not expected to make
> > > >> a full recovery, and the chronic condition could return at any point in the
> > > >> future.
>
> > > > Guillain-Barre' is often misdiagnosed as polio, as was the case with
> > > > President Franklin Delano
> > > > Roosevelt.
>
> > > > CitizenJimserac
>
> > > Actually, we don't know what Roosevelt, although it is more likely he
> > > had GBS rather than polio.
>
> > > Jeff-
>
> > I sent an email to a well known neurologist-blogger about this, and he
> > said thart he tended to agree. He is researching this, and will write
> > a blog article about it in the future. He will use facts.
>
> Oh he will use FACTS!!!
>
> Well, glad to hear that.

Don't worry, I'll translate the big words for you.

Mark Probert wrote:
> On Nov 15, 9:09 am, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Oct 25, 2:49 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 24, 9:00 pm, Jeff <kidsdoc2....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> CitizenJimseracwrote:
>>>>> On Oct 24, 4:17 am, "JOHN" <j....TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>>> http://www.cbc.ca/health/story/2008/10/22/bc-fku-shot-paralysis.html
>>>>>> [2008 Oct] B.C. man paralyzed after flu shot warns of risks The neurologist
>>>>>> diagnosed Ryan with Guillain-Barré syndrome, an autoimmune disease that
>>>>>> attacks the nervous system. He spent the next 10 weeks recovering in
>>>>>> hospital, including three weeks in intensive care, barely able to breathe or
>>>>>> eat for himself. "My face was paralyzed. I had no feeling inside my mouth.
>>>>>> I couldn't feel my tongue. My left eye wouldn't close so it had to be taped
>>>>>> shut to sleep," he said. The illness progressed into a lifelong condition
>>>>>> known as chronic inflammatory demyelinating polyneuropathy (CIDP), and a
>>>>>> year later he remains heavily medicated, unable to work, and has memory
>>>>>> problems. Although the disease is in remission, he is not expected to make
>>>>>> a full recovery, and the chronic condition could return at any point in the
>>>>>> future.
>>>>> Guillain-Barre' is often misdiagnosed as polio, as was the case with
>>>>> President Franklin Delano
>>>>> Roosevelt.
>>>>> CitizenJimserac
>>>> Actually, we don't know what Roosevelt, although it is more likely he
>>>> had GBS rather than polio.
>>>> Jeff-
>>> I sent an email to a well known neurologist-blogger about this, and he
>>> said thart he tended to agree. He is researching this, and will write
>>> a blog article about it in the future. He will use facts.
>> Oh he will use FACTS!!!
>>
>> Well, glad to hear that.
>
> Don't worry, I'll translate the big words for you.
>
That type of personal attack is not called for.