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Jeff

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(Msg. 91) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:49 pm
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On Jul 25, 8:34 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1....DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> On Jul 25, 5:14 am, Grassy Noll <GrassyN....DeleteThis@Dallas.com> wrote:
>
> The Dishonest Mark S Probert left this out.............

Name calling - not appropriate behavior.

> "Grassy Noll" <GrassyN....DeleteThis@Dallas.com> wrote in message
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> news:g6c5i3$ctg$3@aioe.org...> Jan Drew wrote:
>
>  http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
>
>
> > The study cited in this article is suspect.
>
> > (The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons?  HHAHHHAAAAAA!)
>
> > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> > The study cited in this article is suspect.
>
> > (The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons? HHAHHHAAAAAA!)
>
> It is not only the study that is suspect, but the "researchers", i.e.
> Geiers, et al, and the entire website that is suspect.
>
> Actually, Mark S Probert proven liar cannot stand the truth, and leaves out
> the actual posting that was from *me*.

Another nIce personal attack.

> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> The Killer Vaccines
> An Honest Physician Warns of Serious Dangers

Yes, if you look at the datestamp in the URL for the article, it shows
it is from March, 2006, over 2 years ago. Since that time, it is clear
that the incidence of autism continues to rise, even though childhood
vaccines containing ethylmercury has not been available for around 5
years, and none have been sold to docs and other care providers in
about 7 years. So, the "serious dangers" have been effectively shown
not to exist.

To continue to post inaccurate, out-of-date information as if it is
new information only shows that you are grasping at straws when you
try to show that vaccines cause autism.

How sad that you have to make personal attacks and grasp at straws to
make your argument.

However, these pathetic attempts only show how weak your argument is.

Jeff
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(Msg. 92) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:18 pm
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Who?

You don't mean Jeffrey, Peter, Joseph Utz??
NOT kidsdoc.

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(Msg. 93) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:34 pm
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"Mark Probert" <mark.probert.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 25, 5:14 am, Grassy Noll <GrassyN....TakeThisOut@Dallas.com> wrote:

The Dishonest Mark S Probert left this out.............

"Grassy Noll" <GrassyNoll.TakeThisOut@Dallas.com> wrote in message
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> Jan Drew wrote:
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>>
> The study cited in this article is suspect.
>
> (The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons? HHAHHHAAAAAA!)
>
> >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> The study cited in this article is suspect.
>
> (The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons? HHAHHHAAAAAA!)

It is not only the study that is suspect, but the "researchers", i.e.
Geiers, et al, and the entire website that is suspect.

Actually, Mark S Probert proven liar cannot stand the truth, and leaves out
the actual posting that was from *me*.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml

The Killer Vaccines
An Honest Physician Warns of Serious Dangers
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(Msg. 94) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:39 pm
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> All Aioe.org hosts are located in Italy.
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(Msg. 95) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 8:43 pm
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On Jul 25, 5:39 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1....DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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> > All Aioe.org hosts are located in Italy

I know.

I informed Italian Officials that Aioe is the posting host of one or
more members of the US Torture Cartel about a year ago.
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(Msg. 96) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 9:25 pm
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On Jun 24, 3:24 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1....TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
> other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> much as 35 percent.
>
> Using the government's own databases, independent
> researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> including autism, before and after removal of
> mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
>
> The numbers from California show that reported autism
> rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
>
> This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> examined vaccine safety data from the National
> Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
> soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
> a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> that no further studies should be conducted to
> evaluate it."
>
> As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> concentrations.
>
> The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> increase in that state alone. California followed
> suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
>
> Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
>
> The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
>
> The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
>
> Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
> and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
> the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
> safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> importance."
> Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
> the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.

Thanks so much for reminding americans that the parasitic pathocrats
at the US Justice Department have done nothing to hold the lying,
theiving, debilitating murdering members of the US health care
industry accountable for the heinous crimes against defenseless
babies.
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(Msg. 97) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:27 pm
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On Jul 26, 12:37 am, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1....DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Raving" Loonie is still loonie.
> Sad that.

LOL ...

That is exactly the sort of thing that my wife would say!

... I am still married, btw. Sorry.
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(Msg. 98) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 12:37 am
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"Raving" Loonie is still loonie.
Sad that.
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(Msg. 99) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:01 am
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"Jeff" <jeff.utz.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Jul 25, 8:34 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1....DeleteThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> "Mark Probert" <mark.prob....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1ac99fc4-3147-45bc-a57b-0ded9c048f3e@i20g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 25, 5:14 am, Grassy Noll <GrassyN....DeleteThis@Dallas.com> wrote:
>
> The Dishonest Mark S Probert left this out.............

Name calling - not appropriate behavior.

No name calling just the facts, Putz.

> "Grassy Noll" <GrassyN....DeleteThis@Dallas.com> wrote in message
>
> news:g6c5i3$ctg$3@aioe.org...> Jan Drew wrote:
>
> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
>
>
> > The study cited in this article is suspect.
>
> > (The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons? HHAHHHAAAAAA!)
>
> > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> > The study cited in this article is suspect.
>
> > (The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons? HHAHHHAAAAAA!)
>
> It is not only the study that is suspect, but the "researchers", i.e.
> Geiers, et al, and the entire website that is suspect.
>
> Actually, Mark S Probert proven liar cannot stand the truth, and leaves
> out
> the actual posting that was from *me*.

Another nIce personal attack.

Just the FACTS, Putz.
Hypocrite.

*Yes, that shows that the author of the whale to site is "pig ignorant."


*Please. Ralph Moss? What an ass.

This information is total garbage.


If you have it printed, and need to start a fire, I see a use for it.
Otherwise, it is a total waste of electrons.


Jeff*

From: Jeff <kidsdoc2....DeleteThis@hotmail.com>

*You seem to be totally ignorant.*





> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> The Killer Vaccines
> An Honest Physician Warns of Serious Dangers

Yes, if you look at the datestamp in the URL for the article, it shows
it is from March, 2006, over 2 years ago.

Oh, big deal. Is what you momma told you 40 years ago still true?

Since that time, it is clear
that the incidence of autism continues to rise, even though childhood
vaccines containing ethylmercury has not been available for around 5
years, and none have been sold to docs and other care providers in
about 7 years. So, the "serious dangers" have been effectively shown
not to exist.

Blatant lie repeated, but you know that.

To continue to post inaccurate, out-of-date information as if it is
new information

Information form whom?


only shows that you are grasping at straws when you
try to show that vaccines cause autism.

Another blatant lie.

How sad that you have to make personal attacks and grasp at straws to
make your argument.

Once again, no personal attacks, just the facts, Putz.
And--Yes you are indeed sad as are the rest of the *lying gang*.
Sure glad your buddy and you never make *real* personal attacks.
NOT!

However, these pathetic attempts only show how weak your argument is.

Jeff
The

The? Losing it, Putz?

Vaccines are even being promoted for newborns, often for diseases that pose
no risk to children. The greatest danger is the vaccines themselves.

And many in the medical community would like to see annual flu vaccinations
as mandatory.

Powerful lobbies are pushing for many more new vaccinations to be added to
the list!

The popular theory is that vaccines vastly decrease the risk of disease, so
the more the better.

But don't believe it, Dr. Blaylock warns.

He argues that vaccinations themselves are now causing a major upsurge in
childhood diseases, adult maladies - and even deadly ailments such as Gulf
War Syndrome and Lou Gehrig's disease.

Dr. Russell L. Blaylock is a respected medical doctor who is unafraid to
challenge establishment thinking. He doesn't parrot what the New England
Journal of Medicine - which receives heavy subsidies in advertisements -
claims.

Dr. Blaylock is a nationally recognized, board-certified neurosurgeon,
health practitioner, author and lecturer. He has more than a quarter century
of medical experience.

And he is now editing The Blaylock Wellness Report because he believes too
many Americans are not getting the best advice for preventing and dealing
with cancer, heart disease, diabetes, brain diseases such as Parkinson's and
Alzheimer's, and dozens of health problems besetting the American people.
You can get the report by going here.

In his latest report Dr. Blaylock challenges the conventional wisdom that
vaccines are the "golden path to health" and offers these startling
conclusions:

Vaccines already may have caused harm to your health.
Vaccinations are not providing the protection they claim to provide.
Studies on vaccines, including ones that should link vaccinations with
autism are inadequate.
There are serious dangers in our present vaccine policy, a policy that may
cause tremendous harm to the human brain.

Deadly and debilitating diseases such as Gulf War Syndrome, Alzheimer's
disease and Parkinson's disease may be caused or greatly aggravated by
overvaccination.

The mysterious Gulf War Syndrome - which may have killed hundreds and
seriously incapacitated tens of thousands of GIs - may have been caused by
overvaccination.

In his wellness report Dr. Blaylock says, "Our soldiers were given
approximately 17 vaccinations during a short period of time, despite
manufacturers' warnings that many of the vaccines were to be spaced over a
one-year period."

The interaction of so many vaccinations administered so closely together is
extremely harmful and dangerous, according to Dr. Blaylock.

It's an important warning for you, because many doctors like to give
multiple vaccines at the same time.

The largely uninvestigated effect on humans of administering several
vaccinations together or within a short period of time can be serious.

Dr. Blaylock adds that there may be many long-term harmful effects of
vaccinations, especially on the brain. Find out the full benefits by going
here.

These effects include:

A highly stressed immune system unable to combat infections and cancer
The accumulation of free radicals in the body, which can cause "bystander
injuries" and immune system dysfunction
Advanced aging and general debilitation
The onset of Parkinson's and Alzheimer's disease, which are now afflicting
Americans at ever younger ages
Despite growing scientific evidence of the terrible health effects of
overvaccination, pharmaceutical companies and other "big medicine" lobbyists
continue to push for many more mandatory vaccinations of children and
adults.

http://w3.newsmax.com/blaylock/1.cfm

The Killer Vaccines
An Honest Physician Warns of Serious Dangers
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(Msg. 100) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 2:28 am
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"Linda" <Indomitable2.TakeThisOut@netzero.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 24, 3:24 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1....TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
> other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> much as 35 percent.
>
> Using the government's own databases, independent
> researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> including autism, before and after removal of
> mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
>
> The numbers from California show that reported autism
> rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
>
> This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> examined vaccine safety data from the National
> Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
> soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
> a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> that no further studies should be conducted to
> evaluate it."
>
> As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> concentrations.
>
> The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> increase in that state alone. California followed
> suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
>
> Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
>
> The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
>
> The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
>
> Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g.
> tetanus-diphtheria
> and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In
> 2004,
> the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing
> the
> safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> importance."
> Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock
> in
> the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.

Thanks so much for reminding americans that the parasitic pathocrats
at the US Justice Department have done nothing to hold the lying,
theiving, debilitating murdering members of the US health care
industry accountable for the heinous crimes against defenseless
babies.

You are most welcome. My pleasure to show the truth and expose the liars.
Jan

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-Erasmus Darwin, grandfather of Charles Darwin.
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>"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374 DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>> http://www.aioe.org/
>>
>> http://news.aioe.org/spip.php?article29
>>
>> All Aioe.org hosts are located in Italy.
>>
>>

So whucking fat? What earthly difference does the physical location of
a news server make?

Is it too close to the Vatican for you?

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http://www.aioe.org/

http://news.aioe.org/spip.php?article29

All Aioe.org hosts are located in Italy.

They are inside the I.Net datacenter in SETTIMO MILANESE (MI). Everybody
must note that Aioe.org is subjected only to the italian law and all
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(Msg. 103) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 4:55 am
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On Jul 26, 12:25 am, Linda <Indomitab....TakeThisOut@netzero.com> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 3:24 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1....TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> > A newstudyshows thatautismmay be linked after all
> > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> > government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> > alarming increase in reported rates ofautismand
> > other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> > only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> > much as 35 percent.
>
> > Using the government's own databases, independent
> > researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> > includingautism, before and after removal of
> > mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> > B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> > the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> > (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> > Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> > Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> > Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
>
> > The numbers from California show that reportedautism
> > rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> > continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> > than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> > Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> > only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> > decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
>
> > This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> > recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> > examined vaccine safety data from the National
> > Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> > willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> > relationship between mercury andautism, the IOM
> > soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> > were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> > the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> > relationship between thimerosal andautism, that such
> > a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> > that no further studies should be conducted to
> > evaluate it."
>
> > As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> > schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> > mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> > the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> > toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> > Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> > concentrations.
>
> > The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> > as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> > reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> > underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> > state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> > administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> > increase in that state alone. California followed
> > suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
>
> > Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> > vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> > recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> > children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> > which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> > of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> > the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> > injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
>
> > The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> > children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> > 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
>
> > The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> > concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> > commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
>
> > Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> > routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> > U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
> > and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
> > the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> > (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> > thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
> > safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> > importance."
> > Editor's Note: The newstudyconfirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
> > the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> > thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> > children, includingautism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> > adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.
>
> Thanks so much for reminding americans that the parasitic pathocrats
> at the US Justice Department have done nothing to hold the lying,
> theiving,  debilitating murdering members of the US health care
> industry accountable for the heinous crimes against defenseless
> babies.

Reallly?

Vaccines save thousands of lives a day! Without vaccines we would
still have polio and smallpox in the US. In addition, there are no
more cases of measles originating in the US, Hib meningitis incidence
is way down, rubella-related birth defects are close to zero, and
other diseases have been pretty much eliminated from the US. The same
thing is happening outside the US.

You should also note the Grier study that Jan was talking about was a
low-quality study with questionable methods. The conclusion that the
incidence of autism fell after the elimination of ethylmercury from
vaccines has been shown to be false. So Jan talked about a study that
has been discredited.

She does, however, show that to win her argument, one has to use poor-
quality, discredited studies and make numerous personal attacks. And
still, she has shown nothing.

Have a lovely day.

JEff
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(Msg. 104) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:28 am
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Jan Drew wrote:
> Actually, Mark S Probert proven liar cannot stand the truth, and leaves
> out the actual posting that was from *me*.
>
> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml

This study, the researchers who conducted it, and the journal that
published it, are all suspect.

If this is the best you have, then you have nothing at all.

Jan Drew.... the reason your family got autism is because you passed
on bad genes. Had nothing to do with any vaccine.

Jan Drew = wacked out old bag
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(Msg. 105) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:30 am
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Peter Bowditch wrote:
> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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>> "Jan Drew" <jdrew1374.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>> news:QCbik.6626$cn7.3204@flpi145.ffdc.sbc.com...
>>> http://www.aioe.org/
>>>
>>> http://news.aioe.org/spip.php?article29
>>>
>>> All Aioe.org hosts are located in Italy.
>>>
>>>
>
> So whucking fat? What earthly difference does the physical location of
> a news server make?
>
> Is it too close to the Vatican for you?
>
She thinks she's a big cyber detective. Very Happy

The old bag spawned autism in her family and now she can't deal with it.
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