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(Msg. 76) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 3:12 pm
Post subject: Re: Mark S Probert=Proven Liar over and over-- Study links vaccine to [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Jul 23, 1:25 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie....TakeThisOut@zzz.com> wrote:
Fond memories, eh, fArtie?
Shawn Glisson View profile
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From: glis....TakeThisOut@atlanta.com (Shawn Glisson)
Date: 1996/04/23
Subject: Re: Ritalin for Kids : A Bust, Not a Boon/ 2 Million Children
Hooked On Vitamin-R!
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"Dr. Richard X. Frager" <rfra....TakeThisOut@teleport.com> wrote:
>Ritalin for Kids : A Bust, Not a Boon/ 2 Million Children Hooked On
>Vitamin-R!
< Fallacious and inflammatory article snipped >
>Mostly written by Laura Sessions Stepp for the LA Times-Washington Post
>Service.
>Additional comments by Richard Frager for the Amalgamated Press
I received a response back from the Washington Post which confirms
our
suspicions that Richard Frager is a fraud:
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From: "Stepp, Laura" <Ste....TakeThisOut@washpost.com>
To: "'smtp:glis...@atlanta.com'" <glis....TakeThisOut@atlanta.com>
Subject: Wash Post reply
Date: Mon, 22 Apr 96 12:44:00 PDT
Encoding: 15 TEXT
Please be advised that the article posted to a Usenet forum by
Richard
Frager, "Ritalin for Kids..." DOES NOT accurately reflect the story I
wrote and should not go out attributed to me or to The Washington
Post. Frager included several paragraphs of his own in the story, and
modified my phrasing to reflect his own bias.
I will be in touch with Frager separately. Thank you for alerting us
to this potential problem.
Laura Sessions Stepp
Staff Writer
The Washington Post
April 22, 1996
E-mail: Ste....TakeThisOut@WashPost.com
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(Msg. 77) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 4:32 pm
Post subject: Re: Study links vaccine to autism [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:
> ....if you let us help you.
You best get help for impersonating a doctor
and altering an article from the Washington Post.
Those acts speak to your own credibility.
Until you fix that, anything you post here is
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(Msg. 78) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 6:49 pm
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> An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines,
This was a good study.
> Not a well-respected journal
In other words NOT pharma approved.
Donna
On Jun 24, 6:58 pm, Jeff <kidsdoc2....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jan Drew wrote:
> >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
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> > A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> > government's previous claims to the contrary.
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> The study is over two years old.
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> > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines,
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> Not a well-respected journal. The analysis is suspect, at best. They
> used the slope of lines to determine whether or not there was a change
> in the incidence of autism. I have never seen this methodology before.
> However, the incidence of autism continued to rise through the end of
> 2005, after mercury was removed from vaccines. By 2001, vaccines were no
> longer made that had mercury in them, so one would expect to see a
> reduction in autism incidence by 2005.
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> Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than thought:http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848
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> Jeff
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(Msg. 79) Posted: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:13 pm
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On Jul 23, 1:32 pm, Ray Banana <R... RemoveThis @Banana.com> wrote:
> Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:
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> > ....if you let us help you.
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> You best get help for impersonating a doctor
You best get help for impersonating a human, Proby. Let "us" help
you. Who is your main spychiatrist, we need to contact him or her. |
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(Msg. 80) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 5:44 am
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Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:
> On Jul 23, 1:32 pm, Ray Banana <R....TakeThisOut@Banana.com> wrote:
>> Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:
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>>> ....if you let us help you.
>> You best get help for impersonating a doctor
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> You best get help for impersonating a human...
Hahahaahaha!
Are we getting to you, fArtie? Is that the best you got?
Tell us, why did you impersonate a Dr. Richard X Frager??
fArtie, you are done. Zero credibility!
Take a long vacation from usenet.
Go visit Linda in Las Vegas or Jan in Bloomington.
Maybe one of them will shine the back of your balls! |
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(Msg. 81) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 7:21 am
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On Jul 24, 2:44 am, Ray Banana <R....TakeThisOut@Banana.com> wrote:
> Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:
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> > On Jul 23, 1:32 pm, Ray Banana <R....TakeThisOut@Banana.com> wrote:
> >> Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A. wrote:
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> >>> ....if you let us help you.
> >> You best get help for impersonating a doctor
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> > You best get help for impersonating a human...
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> Hahahaahaha!
That is healthy, perhaps we've have got to you before you dosed
yourself.
Proby's alter-ego is improving, a little bit.
Who is your main psychotherapist, we need to contact them, for your
sake! And that it not a laughing matter.:< |
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(Msg. 82) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 2:33 pm
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On Jul 23, 9:49 pm, Kevysmom <bluebun....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
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> > > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines,
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> This was a good study.
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> > Not a well-respected journal
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> In other words NOT pharma approved.
Not rationality approved. The AAPS is NOT a medical socienty, but a
collection of wing-nuts.
See:
http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/91/
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(Msg. 83) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:20 pm
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(Msg. 84) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:26 pm
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(Msg. 85) Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:43 pm
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(Msg. 86) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 3:57 am
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On Jul 25, 5:14 am, Grassy Noll <GrassyN... DeleteThis @Dallas.com> wrote:
> Jan Drew wrote:
> >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
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> The study cited in this article is suspect.
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> (The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons? HHAHHHAAAAAA!)
That's an understatement. The article uses an unorthodox procedure
(drawing best fit lines of overlapping time periods from cherry-picked
data), misuses a database that is not designed to determine if events
are related to vaccines (VAERS, it ia designed to pick up any events
that *might* be related to vaccines at the cost of overreporting of
false positives) nor pick up neurodevelopmental problems related to
vaccines, and is published in a questionable journal. In addition, the
data are, according to the title of paper, "early." Since the paper
was published, it is clear that the upward increase in the incidence
of autism and autism spectrum disorders has continued unabated,
showing that the preliminary conclusions of the study were incorrect.
To continue to cite this paper when it is a preliminary paper that has
been shown to draw incorrect conclusions particularly when it has the
problems shown above, as evidence that thimerasol (ethylmercury) is
related to autism is intellectually dishonest at best and no better
than outright lying, IMHO.
The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons is an association
in which any bunghole can join (one need not be a phsyician or surgeon
or even a health professional).
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(Msg. 87) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:10 am
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(Msg. 88) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:14 am
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(Msg. 89) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 6:06 am
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On Jul 25, 5:14 am, Grassy Noll <GrassyN....RemoveThis@Dallas.com> wrote:
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> >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
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> The study cited in this article is suspect.
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> (The Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons? HHAHHHAAAAAA!)
It is not only the study that is suspect, but the "researchers", i.e.
Geiers, et al, and the entire website that is suspect. |
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(Msg. 90) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 5:48 pm
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