Study links vaccine to autism

In message <3cfe97c0-8051-49f3-892c-db86006ee475.TakeThisOut@x35g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>, Citizen Jimserac wrote:
> On Jun 27, 8:04 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....TakeThisOut@ratbags.com> wrote:
>> CitizenJimserac<Jimse....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >Did you know that Homeopathy had a MUCH higher success rate
>> >in the 1918 influenza epidemic than the MD's attained?
>>
>> Why would I need to know something that isn't true?
>
> Well, would it surprise you to learn
> that if it were true, the dominant allopathic
> journals WOULD NOT be advertising the fact.

Brilliant logic. It appears that your best argument
in favor of homeopathy is based on the principle that
anything not covered in peer-reviewed medical journals
is necessarily true.

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| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against |
| unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct |
| before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson |
+-------- D. C. Sessions <dcs.TakeThisOut@lumbercartel.com> ---------+

On Jun 27, 12:43 pm, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 27, 9:17 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>
>
>
>
>
> <scie....TakeThisOut@zzz.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 24, 3:24 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1....TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> > > A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> > > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> > > government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> > > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> > > alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
> > > other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> > > only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> > > much as 35 percent.
>
> > > Using the government's own databases, independent
> > > researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> > > including autism, before and after removal of
> > > mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> > > B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> > > the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> > > (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> > > Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> > > Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> > > Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
>
> > > The numbers from California show that reported autism
> > > rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> > > continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> > > than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> > > Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> > > only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> > > decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
>
> > > This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> > > recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> > > examined vaccine safety data from the National
> > > Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> > > willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> > > relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
> > > soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> > > were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> > > the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> > > relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
> > > a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> > > that no further studies should be conducted to
> > > evaluate it."
>
> > > As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> > > schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> > > mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> > > the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> > > toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> > > Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> > > concentrations.
>
> > > The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> > > as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> > > reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> > > underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> > > state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> > > administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> > > increase in that state alone. California followed
> > > suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
>
> > > Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> > > vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> > > recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> > > children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> > > which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> > > of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> > > the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> > > injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
>
> > > The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> > > children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> > > 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
>
> > > The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> > > concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> > > commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
>
> > > Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> > > routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> > > U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
> > > and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
> > > the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> > > (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> > > thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
> > > safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> > > importance."
> > > Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
> > > the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> > > thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> > > children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> > > adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.
>
> > This is an open and shut case, thank you for posting this.  Nobody can
> > credibly question these studies, and nobody that has any integrity
> > will. Our pro-human side have discredited the myth of ADD, ADHD and
> > have demonstrably proven that autism is directly related to vaccines.
> > But much more needs to be done, and we will do it.
>
> > Almost all the pro-med posters have gone from these newsgroups, except
> > the most extreme ones, and nobody takes them seriously.  I almost miss
> > the nut-cases like Pro-Bert and kooky Ann... I said ALMOST!!!!
>
> Thank goodness there are people out there who are aware
> of the insults, misdirections and inexhaustible deceptions
> of the gang of four INCLUDING Merc ProBERT.


fArtie, as his friends call him (he has no friends) is a long time
internet troll who has abused and used mentally ill people for years.
He plagiarizes articles, changes the working of newspaper articles to
change their meaning, and is recognized as one of the internets true
morons.

I have known him for years, and have yet to see him post a fact. You
two should get along quite well together. Just do not breed.

I almost feel sorry for Pro-butt, VD Sessions, porno persons, Ann and
the other crackpots who desperately feel the need to post their
drivel. Nobody, except their own little cult, even reads and responds
to their ratings. From time to time I stop by and see if they have
managed to fool anybody else, but it seems like they have zero
credibility left, so that is no longer a concern!!


Citizen Jimserac wrote:
> On Jun 27, 9:17�am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
> <scie....RemoveThis@zzz.com> wrote:
> > On Jun 24, 3:24 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1....RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
> >
> > > A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> > > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> > > government's previous claims to the contrary.
> >
> > > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> > > alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
> > > other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> > > only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> > > much as 35 percent.
> >
> > > Using the government's own databases, independent
> > > researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> > > including autism, before and after removal of
> > > mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> > > B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> > > the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> > > (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> > > Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> > > Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> > > Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
> >
> > > The numbers from California show that reported autism
> > > rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> > > continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> > > than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> > > Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> > > only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> > > decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
> >
> > > This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> > > recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> > > examined vaccine safety data from the National
> > > Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> > > willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> > > relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
> > > soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> > > were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> > > the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> > > relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
> > > a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> > > that no further studies should be conducted to
> > > evaluate it."
> >
> > > As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> > > schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> > > mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> > > the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> > > toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> > > Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> > > concentrations.
> >
> > > The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> > > as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> > > reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> > > underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> > > state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> > > administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> > > increase in that state alone. California followed
> > > suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
> >
> > > Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> > > vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> > > recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> > > children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> > > which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> > > of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> > > the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> > > injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
> >
> > > The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> > > children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> > > 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
> >
> > > The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> > > concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> > > commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
> >
> > > Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> > > routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> > > U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
> > > and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
> > > the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> > > (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> > > thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
> > > safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> > > importance."
> > > Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
> > > the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> > > thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> > > children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> > > adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.
> >
> > This is an open and shut case, thank you for posting this. �Nobody can
> > credibly question these studies, and nobody that has any integrity
> > will. Our pro-human side have discredited the myth of ADD, ADHD and
> > have demonstrably proven that autism is directly related to vaccines.
> > But much more needs to be done, and we will do it.
> >
> > Almost all the pro-med posters have gone from these newsgroups, except
> > the most extreme ones, and nobody takes them seriously. �I almost miss
> > the nut-cases like Pro-Bert and kooky Ann... I said ALMOST!!!!
>
> Thank goodness there are people out there who are aware
> of the insults, misdirections and inexhaustible deceptions
> of the gang of four INCLUDING Merc ProBERT.
>
> Since I came to this newsgroup amidst insults
> attacks and other impedimentia from the "gang",
> after daring to make some posts that there
> MIGHT, I repeat might be some scientific
> support for the efficacy of Homeopathy,
> I resolved to keep posting links and information
> that indicate viable alternatives to standard medicine
> as well as links and information that must
> seriously call into question the unfortunate
> alliance between commercial interests
> and some areas of medical science.
>
> The blind and total acceptance of the efficacy
> of vaccinations is one of the things
> I have begun to challenge and I am
> very pleased that many young mothers,
> as well as others of all age groups
> and socio-economic strata, no longer
> accept the endless propaganda and
> media fear mongering which accompanies
> yet MORE exhortations to get vaccinated.
>
> Evidence of the rather serious correlations between rising
> autism rates and other long term
> deleterious consequences of vaccinations
> have been met with the most hysterical
> innuendo and obstinacy, coupled with the
> usual attacks, misdirections and mis-statements
> of the anti-alternative medicine puppets
> who I have given the nickname the "aunties".
>
> I shall continue posting despite the fact that
> NEARLY EVERY thread I attempt to post
> or start on an alternative medicine subject
> is either subverted, misdirected or otherwise
> diverted into directions unrelated to the topic
> of the original posting.
>
> Many Thanks
> Citizen Jimserac

On Jun 28, 12:18 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie....TakeThisOut@zzz.com> wrote:
> I almost feel sorry for Pro-butt, VD Sessions, porno persons, Ann and
> the other crackpots who desperately feel the need to post their
> drivel. Nobody, except their own little cult, even reads and responds
> to their ratings. From time to time I stop by and see if they have
> managed to fool anybody else, but it seems like they have zero
> credibility left, so that is no longer a concern!!
>
> CitizenJimseracwrote:
> > On Jun 27, 9:17�am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
> > <scie....TakeThisOut@zzz.com> wrote:
> > > On Jun 24, 3:24 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1....TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> > > > A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> > > > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> > > > government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> > > > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > > > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > > > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> > > > alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
> > > > other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> > > > only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> > > > much as 35 percent.
>
> > > > Using the government's own databases, independent
> > > > researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> > > > including autism, before and after removal of
> > > > mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> > > > B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> > > > the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> > > > (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> > > > Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> > > > Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> > > > Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
>
> > > > The numbers from California show that reported autism
> > > > rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> > > > continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> > > > than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> > > > Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> > > > only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> > > > decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
>
> > > > This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> > > > recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> > > > examined vaccine safety data from the National
> > > > Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> > > > willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> > > > relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
> > > > soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> > > > were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> > > > the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> > > > relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
> > > > a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> > > > that no further studies should be conducted to
> > > > evaluate it."
>
> > > > As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> > > > schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> > > > mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> > > > the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> > > > toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> > > > Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> > > > concentrations.
>
> > > > The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> > > > as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> > > > reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> > > > underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> > > > state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> > > > administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> > > > increase in that state alone. California followed
> > > > suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
>
> > > > Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> > > > vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> > > > recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> > > > children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> > > > which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> > > > of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> > > > the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> > > > injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
>
> > > > The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> > > > children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> > > > 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
>
> > > > The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> > > > concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> > > > commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
>
> > > > Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> > > > routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> > > > U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
> > > > and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
> > > > the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> > > > (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> > > > thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
> > > > safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> > > > importance."
> > > > Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
> > > > the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> > > > thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> > > > children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> > > > adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.
>
> > > This is an open and shut case, thank you for posting this. �Nobody can
> > > credibly question these studies, and nobody that has any integrity
> > > will. Our pro-human side have discredited the myth of ADD, ADHD and
> > > have demonstrably proven that autism is directly related to vaccines.
> > > But much more needs to be done, and we will do it.
>
> > > Almost all the pro-med posters have gone from these newsgroups, except
> > > the most extreme ones, and nobody takes them seriously. �I almost miss
> > > the nut-cases like Pro-Bert and kooky Ann... I said ALMOST!!!!
>
> > Thank goodness there are people out there who are aware
> > of the insults, misdirections and inexhaustible deceptions
> > of the gang of four INCLUDING Merc ProBERT.
>
> > Since I came to this newsgroup amidst insults
> > attacks and other impedimentia from the "gang",
> > after daring to make some posts that there
> > MIGHT, I repeat might be some scientific
> > support for the efficacy of Homeopathy,
> > I resolved to keep posting links and information
> > that indicate viable alternatives to standard medicine
> > as well as links and information that must
> > seriously call into question the unfortunate
> > alliance between commercial interests
> > and some areas of medical science.
>
> > The blind and total acceptance of the efficacy
> > of vaccinations is one of the things
> > I have begun to challenge and I am
> > very pleased that many young mothers,
> > as well as others of all age groups
> > and socio-economic strata, no longer
> > accept the endless propaganda and
> > media fear mongering which accompanies
> > yet MORE exhortations to get vaccinated.
>
> > Evidence of the rather serious correlations between rising
> > autism rates and other long term
> > deleterious consequences of vaccinations
> > have been met with the most hysterical
> > innuendo and obstinacy, coupled with the
> > usual attacks, misdirections and mis-statements
> > of the anti-alternative medicine puppets
> > who I have given the nickname the "aunties".
>
> > I shall continue posting despite the fact that
> > NEARLY EVERY thread I attempt to post
> > or start on an alternative medicine subject
> > is either subverted, misdirected or otherwise
> > diverted into directions unrelated to the topic
> > of the original posting.
>
> > Many Thanks
> > CitizenJimserac

Good nicknames!

Citizen Jimserac

> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
> other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> much as 35 percent.
>
> Using the government's own databases, independent
> researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> including autism, before and after removal of
> mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
>
> The numbers from California show that reported autism
> rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
>
> This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> examined vaccine safety data from the National
> Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
> soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
> a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> that no further studies should be conducted to
> evaluate it."
>
> As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> concentrations.
>
> The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> increase in that state alone. California followed
> suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
>
> Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
>
> The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
>
> The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
>
> Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g.
> tetanus-diphtheria
> and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In
> 2004,
> the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing
> the
> safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> importance."
> Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock
> in
> the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.
>
>
>
>
>

On Jun 28, 2:40 pm, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 28, 12:18 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>
>
>
> <scie... RemoveThis @zzz.com> wrote:
> > I almost feel sorry for Pro-butt, VD Sessions, porno persons, Ann and
> > the other crackpots who desperately feel the need to post their
> > drivel. Nobody, except their own little cult, even reads and responds
> > to their ratings. From time to time I stop by and see if they have
> > managed to fool anybody else, but it seems like they have zero
> > credibility left, so that is no longer a concern!!
>
> > CitizenJimseracwrote:
> > > On Jun 27, 9:17�am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
> > > <scie... RemoveThis @zzz.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jun 24, 3:24 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1... RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > > > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> > > > > A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> > > > > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> > > > > government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> > > > > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > > > > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > > > > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> > > > > alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
> > > > > other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> > > > > only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> > > > > much as 35 percent.
>
> > > > > Using the government's own databases, independent
> > > > > researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> > > > > including autism, before and after removal of
> > > > > mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> > > > > B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> > > > > the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> > > > > (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> > > > > Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> > > > > Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> > > > > Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
>
> > > > > The numbers from California show that reported autism
> > > > > rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> > > > > continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> > > > > than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> > > > > Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> > > > > only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> > > > > decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
>
> > > > > This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> > > > > recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> > > > > examined vaccine safety data from the National
> > > > > Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> > > > > willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> > > > > relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
> > > > > soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> > > > > were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> > > > > the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> > > > > relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
> > > > > a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> > > > > that no further studies should be conducted to
> > > > > evaluate it."
>
> > > > > As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> > > > > schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> > > > > mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> > > > > the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> > > > > toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> > > > > Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> > > > > concentrations.
>
> > > > > The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> > > > > as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> > > > > reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> > > > > underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> > > > > state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> > > > > administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> > > > > increase in that state alone. California followed
> > > > > suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
>
> > > > > Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> > > > > vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> > > > > recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> > > > > children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> > > > > which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> > > > > of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> > > > > the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> > > > > injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
>
> > > > > The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> > > > > children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> > > > > 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
>
> > > > > The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> > > > > concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> > > > > commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
>
> > > > > Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> > > > > routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> > > > > U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
> > > > > and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults.. In 2004,
> > > > > the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> > > > > (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> > > > > thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
> > > > > safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> > > > > importance."
> > > > > Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
> > > > > the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> > > > > thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> > > > > children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> > > > > adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.
>
> > > > This is an open and shut case, thank you for posting this. �Nobody can
> > > > credibly question these studies, and nobody that has any integrity
> > > > will. Our pro-human side have discredited the myth of ADD, ADHD and
> > > > have demonstrably proven that autism is directly related to vaccines.
> > > > But much more needs to be done, and we will do it.
>
> > > > Almost all the pro-med posters have gone from these newsgroups, except
> > > > the most extreme ones, and nobody takes them seriously. �I almost miss
> > > > the nut-cases like Pro-Bert and kooky Ann... I said ALMOST!!!!
>
> > > Thank goodness there are people out there who are aware
> > > of the insults, misdirections and inexhaustible deceptions
> > > of the gang of four INCLUDING Merc ProBERT.
>
> > > Since I came to this newsgroup amidst insults
> > > attacks and other impedimentia from the "gang",
> > > after daring to make some posts that there
> > > MIGHT, I repeat might be some scientific
> > > support for the efficacy of Homeopathy,
> > > I resolved to keep posting links and information
> > > that indicate viable alternatives to standard medicine
> > > as well as links and information that must
> > > seriously call into question the unfortunate
> > > alliance between commercial interests
> > > and some areas of medical science.
>
> > > The blind and total acceptance of the efficacy
> > > of vaccinations is one of the things
> > > I have begun to challenge and I am
> > > very pleased that many young mothers,
> > > as well as others of all age groups
> > > and socio-economic strata, no longer
> > > accept the endless propaganda and
> > > media fear mongering which accompanies
> > > yet MORE exhortations to get vaccinated.
>
> > > Evidence of the rather serious correlations between rising
> > > autism rates and other long term
> > > deleterious consequences of vaccinations
> > > have been met with the most hysterical
> > > innuendo and obstinacy, coupled with the
> > > usual attacks, misdirections and mis-statements
> > > of the anti-alternative medicine puppets
> > > who I have given the nickname the "aunties".
>
> > > I shall continue posting despite the fact that
> > > NEARLY EVERY thread I attempt to post
> > > or start on an alternative medicine subject
> > > is either subverted, misdirected or otherwise
> > > diverted into directions unrelated to the topic
> > > of the original posting.
>
> > > Many Thanks
> > > CitizenJimserac
>
> Good nicknames!
>
> Citizen Jimserac

Thank you, I've been exposing their Cult of Useful Idiots for a very
long time. One thing to remember, is that the Proburt Clan has NO
SHAME, none, zero, zilch. I've exposed them (Proby, Wright, Ann,
etc.) line by line for many a years, but they come back with the same
distorted material, like nothing has happened.

Although our efforts have not been in vain, since it seems like their
ability to fool new people has diminished to zero. Honest researchers
like yourself, Jan Drew, Sara Freeman and Sir Wholeflaffer have paid
off and the tables have turned.

Dr. Jimerac, keep up the great work, we are winning the war for the
hearts and minds of honest citizens, we will succeed!

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.


An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.


Using the government's own databases, independent
researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
including autism, before and after removal of
mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
(VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."


The numbers from California show that reported autism
rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
Geiers report that the number actually went down to
only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
decrease from the projections of 35 percent.


This analysis directly contradicts 2004
recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
examined vaccine safety data from the National
Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
the evidence favored rejection of a causal
relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
that no further studies should be conducted to
evaluate it."


As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
concentrations.


The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
administered there after it documented a 700-fold
increase in that state alone. California followed
suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.


Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
injected with mercury-containing vaccines.


The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.


The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
concern, as it is still added to some of the most
commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.


Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
(NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
importance."
Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.

On Jun 29, 1:26 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie....RemoveThis@zzz.com> wrote:
ned.
>
> Although our efforts have not been in vain, since it seems like their
> ability to fool new people has diminished to zero. Honest researchers
> like yourself, Jan Drew, Sara Freeman and Sir Wholeflaffer have paid
> off and the tables have turned.
>
> Dr. Jimerac, keep up the great work, we are winning the war for the
> hearts and minds of honest citizens, we will succeed!

Thank you!

Citizen Jimserac

On Jun 28, 5:40 pm, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 28, 12:18 pm, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
>
>
>
>
>
> <scie... RemoveThis @zzz.com> wrote:
> > I almost feel sorry for Pro-butt, VD Sessions, porno persons, Ann and
> > the other crackpots who desperately feel the need to post their
> > drivel.  Nobody, except their own little cult, even reads and responds
> > to their ratings. From time to time I stop by and see if they have
> > managed to fool anybody else, but it seems like they have zero
> > credibility left, so that is no longer a concern!!
>
> > CitizenJimseracwrote:
> > > On Jun 27, 9:17�am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
> > > <scie... RemoveThis @zzz.com> wrote:
> > > > On Jun 24, 3:24 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1... RemoveThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > > > >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> > > > > A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> > > > > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> > > > > government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> > > > > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > > > > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > > > > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> > > > > alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
> > > > > other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> > > > > only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> > > > > much as 35 percent.
>
> > > > > Using the government's own databases, independent
> > > > > researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> > > > > including autism, before and after removal of
> > > > > mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> > > > > B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> > > > > the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> > > > > (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> > > > > Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> > > > > Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> > > > > Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
>
> > > > > The numbers from California show that reported autism
> > > > > rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> > > > > continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> > > > > than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> > > > > Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> > > > > only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> > > > > decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
>
> > > > > This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> > > > > recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> > > > > examined vaccine safety data from the National
> > > > > Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> > > > > willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> > > > > relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
> > > > > soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> > > > > were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> > > > > the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> > > > > relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
> > > > > a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> > > > > that no further studies should be conducted to
> > > > > evaluate it."
>
> > > > > As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> > > > > schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> > > > > mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> > > > > the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> > > > > toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> > > > > Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> > > > > concentrations.
>
> > > > > The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> > > > > as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> > > > > reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> > > > > underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> > > > > state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> > > > > administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> > > > > increase in that state alone. California followed
> > > > > suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
>
> > > > > Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> > > > > vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> > > > > recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> > > > > children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> > > > > which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> > > > > of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> > > > > the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> > > > > injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
>
> > > > > The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> > > > > children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> > > > > 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
>
> > > > > The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> > > > > concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> > > > > commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
>
> > > > > Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> > > > > routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> > > > > U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
> > > > > and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults.. In 2004,
> > > > > the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> > > > > (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> > > > > thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
> > > > > safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> > > > > importance."
> > > > > Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
> > > > > the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> > > > > thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> > > > > children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> > > > > adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.
>
> > > > This is an open and shut case, thank you for posting this. �Nobody can
> > > > credibly question these studies, and nobody that has any integrity
> > > > will. Our pro-human side have discredited the myth of ADD, ADHD and
> > > > have demonstrably proven that autism is directly related to vaccines.
> > > > But much more needs to be done, and we will do it.
>
> > > > Almost all the pro-med posters have gone from these newsgroups, except
> > > > the most extreme ones, and nobody takes them seriously. �I almost miss
> > > > the nut-cases like Pro-Bert and kooky Ann... I said ALMOST!!!!
>
> > > Thank goodness there are people out there who are aware
> > > of the insults, misdirections and inexhaustible deceptions
> > > of the gang of four INCLUDING Merc ProBERT.
>
> > > Since I came to this newsgroup amidst insults
> > > attacks and other impedimentia from the "gang",
> > > after daring to make some posts that there
> > > MIGHT, I repeat might be some scientific
> > > support for the efficacy of Homeopathy,
> > > I resolved to keep posting links and information
> > > that indicate viable alternatives to standard medicine
> > > as well as links and information that must
> > > seriously call into question the unfortunate
> > > alliance between commercial interests
> > > and some areas of medical science.
>
> > > The blind and total acceptance of the efficacy
> > > of vaccinations is one of the things
> > > I have begun to challenge and I am
> > > very pleased that many young mothers,
> > > as well as others of all age groups
> > > and socio-economic strata, no longer
> > > accept the endless propaganda and
> > > media fear mongering which accompanies
> > > yet MORE exhortations to get vaccinated.
>
> > > Evidence of the rather serious correlations between rising
> > > autism rates and other long term
> > > deleterious consequences of vaccinations
> > > have been met with the most hysterical
> > > innuendo and obstinacy, coupled with the
> > > usual attacks, misdirections and mis-statements
> > > of the anti-alternative medicine puppets
> > > who I have given the nickname the "aunties".
>
> > > I shall continue posting despite the fact that
> > > NEARLY EVERY thread I attempt to post
> > > or start on an alternative medicine subject
> > > is either subverted, misdirected or otherwise
> > > diverted into directions unrelated to the topic
> > > of the original posting.
>
> > > Many Thanks
> > > CitizenJimserac
>
> Good nicknames!

they sure beat yours, Dumbass, andfArties.

On Jun 29, 1:26 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie... DeleteThis @zzz.com> wrote:

> Thank you, I've been exposing

Am I the only one who has noticed these screwballs obsession with
exposing themselves to be loons?

On Jun 29, 9:01 am, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 29, 1:26 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."<scie....RemoveThis@zzz.com> wrote:
>
> ned.
>
>
>
> > Although our efforts have not been in vain, since it seems like their
> > ability to fool new people has diminished to zero.  Honest researchers
> > like yourself, Jan Drew, Sara Freeman and Sir Wholeflaffer have paid
> > off and the tables have turned.
>
> > Dr. Jimerac, keep up the great work, we are winning the war for the
> > hearts and minds of honest citizens,  we will succeed!
>
> Thank you!
>
> Citizen Jimserac

Hey, Jimmy, fArtie will lead you right down Dante's Road.