Study links vaccine to autism

On Jun 26, 5:42 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jun 26, 5:35 pm, CitizenJimserac<Jimse... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 26, 9:21 am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn... RemoveThis @ratbags.com> wrote:
>
> > > CitizenJimserac<Jimse... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >On Jun 25, 9:03 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn... RemoveThis @ratbags.com> wrote:
> > > >> Mark Probert <mark.prob... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> > Well it seems you were RIGHT...
> > > >> >> er, EXCEPT THAT IS FOR THE FLU VACCINES!
> > > >> >> (perhaps others too?)
>
> > > >> >No, idiot. Even the flu vaccine comes in a thimerosal free version.
>
> > > >> When I had my flu shot a few weeks back I WAS NOT GIVEN THE OPTION of
> > > >> a mercury-free vaccine. I had to take what the doctor ordered.
>
> > > >> Bastards!!
>
> > > >> By the way - there was no mercury in it.
>
> > > >A young man, getting FLU shots??
> > > >Do you have some susceptibility to it?
>
> > > Yes. It is a consequence of being human.
>
> > Well then, young human, would you reveal
> > to us HOW MANY TIMES, exactly, you have
> > had the flu in the past?
>
> In the past fifteen years I have had the flu one time. I neglected to
> have the vaccine that year.
>
> And, it will never happen again.
>
> Thanks for asking.

Muck Probert!!!!

Actually I DID NOT ask you but, thanks for supporting
my argument that in healthy folk the flu
is sufficiently rare to OBVIATE THE NECESSITY
OF EVER GETTING SHOTS FOR IT.

Besides, as you very well know,
there is an easy way to "duck" it!!!!!

More denials and attacks please!

Citizen Jimserac

On Jun 26, 5:47 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....RemoveThis@ratbags.com> wrote:
> CitizenJimserac<Jimse....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >On Jun 26, 9:21 am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....RemoveThis@ratbags.com> wrote:
> >> CitizenJimserac<Jimse....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >On Jun 25, 9:03 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....RemoveThis@ratbags.com> wrote:
> >> >> Mark Probert <mark.prob....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Well it seems you were RIGHT...
> >> >> >> er, EXCEPT THAT IS FOR THE FLU VACCINES!
> >> >> >> (perhaps others too?)
>
> >> >> >No, idiot. Even the flu vaccine comes in a thimerosal free version.
>
> >> >> When I had my flu shot a few weeks back I WAS NOT GIVEN THE OPTION of
> >> >> a mercury-free vaccine. I had to take what the doctor ordered.
>
> >> >> Bastards!!
>
> >> >> By the way - there was no mercury in it.
>
> >> >A young man, getting FLU shots??
> >> >Do you have some susceptibility to it?
>
> >> Yes. It is a consequence of being human.
>
> >Well then, young human, would you reveal
> >to us HOW MANY TIMES, exactly, you have
> >had the flu in the past?
>
> Nonce.


I prefer to "duck" it, when the time
comes!

Citizen Jimserac

In message <50cc3c7f-4494-4a19-90e3-1870c64baf6c.DeleteThis@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, Citizen Jimserac wrote:
> On Jun 26, 5:42 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>> In the past fifteen years I have had the flu one time. I neglected to
>> have the vaccine that year.
>>
>> And, it will never happen again.
>>
>> Thanks for asking.
>
> Muck Probert!!!!
>
> Actually I DID NOT ask you but, thanks for supporting
> my argument that in healthy folk the flu
> is sufficiently rare to OBVIATE THE NECESSITY
> OF EVER GETTING SHOTS FOR IT.

I suppose there's an etiological point where *anything*
becomes support for a dearly-held belief -- makes no
difference what, it's all confirmatory.

--
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| unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct |
| before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson |
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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.

An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.

Using the government's own databases, independent
researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
including autism, before and after removal of
mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
(VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."

The numbers from California show that reported autism
rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
Geiers report that the number actually went down to
only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
decrease from the projections of 35 percent.

This analysis directly contradicts 2004
recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
examined vaccine safety data from the National
Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
the evidence favored rejection of a causal
relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
that no further studies should be conducted to
evaluate it."

As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
concentrations.

The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
administered there after it documented a 700-fold
increase in that state alone. California followed
suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.

Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
injected with mercury-containing vaccines.

The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.

The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
concern, as it is still added to some of the most
commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.

Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
(NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
importance."
Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.

Citizen Jimserac <Jimserac.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jun 25, 9:03 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....TakeThisOut@ratbags.com> wrote:
>> Mark Probert <mark.prob....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Well it seems you were RIGHT...
>> >> er, EXCEPT THAT IS FOR THE FLU VACCINES!
>> >> (perhaps others too?)
>>
>> >No, idiot. Even the flu vaccine comes in a thimerosal free version.
>>
>> When I had my flu shot a few weeks back I WAS NOT GIVEN THE OPTION of
>> a mercury-free vaccine. I had to take what the doctor ordered.
>>
>> Bastards!!
>>
>> By the way - there was no mercury in it.
>>
>
>A young man, getting FLU shots??
>Do you have some susceptibility to it?

Yes. It is a consequence of being human.

>
>Cit J.
>

--
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The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.

An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.

Using the government's own databases, independent
researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
including autism, before and after removal of
mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
(VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."

The numbers from California show that reported autism
rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
Geiers report that the number actually went down to
only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
decrease from the projections of 35 percent.

This analysis directly contradicts 2004
recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
examined vaccine safety data from the National
Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
the evidence favored rejection of a causal
relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
that no further studies should be conducted to
evaluate it."

As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
concentrations.

The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
administered there after it documented a 700-fold
increase in that state alone. California followed
suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.

Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
injected with mercury-containing vaccines.

The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.

The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
concern, as it is still added to some of the most
commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.

Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
(NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
importance."
Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.

On Jun 24, 3:24 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1....RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
> other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> much as 35 percent.
>
> Using the government's own databases, independent
> researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> including autism, before and after removal of
> mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
>
> The numbers from California show that reported autism
> rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
>
> This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> examined vaccine safety data from the National
> Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
> soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
> a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> that no further studies should be conducted to
> evaluate it."
>
> As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> concentrations.
>
> The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> increase in that state alone. California followed
> suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
>
> Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
>
> The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
>
> The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
>
> Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
> and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
> the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
> safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> importance."
> Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
> the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.

This is an open and shut case, thank you for posting this. Nobody can
credibly question these studies, and nobody that has any integrity
will. Our pro-human side have discredited the myth of ADD, ADHD and
have demonstrably proven that autism is directly related to vaccines.
But much more needs to be done, and we will do it.

Almost all the pro-med posters have gone from these newsgroups, except
the most extreme ones, and nobody takes them seriously. I almost miss
the nut-cases like Pro-Bert and kooky Ann... I said ALMOST!!!!

Citizen Jimserac <Jimserac.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jun 26, 9:21 am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....RemoveThis@ratbags.com> wrote:
>> CitizenJimserac<Jimse....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jun 25, 9:03 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....RemoveThis@ratbags.com> wrote:
>> >> Mark Probert <mark.prob....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Well it seems you were RIGHT...
>> >> >> er, EXCEPT THAT IS FOR THE FLU VACCINES!
>> >> >> (perhaps others too?)
>>
>> >> >No, idiot. Even the flu vaccine comes in a thimerosal free version.
>>
>> >> When I had my flu shot a few weeks back I WAS NOT GIVEN THE OPTION of
>> >> a mercury-free vaccine. I had to take what the doctor ordered.
>>
>> >> Bastards!!
>>
>> >> By the way - there was no mercury in it.
>>
>> >A young man, getting FLU shots??
>> >Do you have some susceptibility to it?
>>
>> Yes. It is a consequence of being human.
>>
>>
>
>Well then, young human, would you reveal
>to us HOW MANY TIMES, exactly, you have
>had the flu in the past?

Nonce.

>
>Citizen Jimserac

--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com

On Jun 27, 9:17 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie... DeleteThis @zzz.com> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 3:24 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1... DeleteThis @sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> > A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> > government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> > alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
> > other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> > only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> > much as 35 percent.
>
> > Using the government's own databases, independent
> > researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> > including autism, before and after removal of
> > mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> > B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> > the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> > (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> > Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> > Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> > Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
>
> > The numbers from California show that reported autism
> > rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> > continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> > than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> > Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> > only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> > decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
>
> > This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> > recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> > examined vaccine safety data from the National
> > Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> > willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> > relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
> > soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> > were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> > the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> > relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
> > a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> > that no further studies should be conducted to
> > evaluate it."
>
> > As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> > schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> > mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> > the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> > toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> > Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> > concentrations.
>
> > The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> > as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> > reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> > underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> > state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> > administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> > increase in that state alone. California followed
> > suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
>
> > Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> > vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> > recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> > children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> > which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> > of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> > the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> > injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
>
> > The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> > children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> > 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
>
> > The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> > concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> > commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
>
> > Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> > routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> > U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
> > and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
> > the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> > (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> > thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
> > safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> > importance."
> > Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
> > the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> > thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> > children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> > adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.
>
> This is an open and shut case, thank you for posting this.  Nobody can
> credibly question these studies, and nobody that has any integrity
> will. Our pro-human side have discredited the myth of ADD, ADHD and
> have demonstrably proven that autism is directly related to vaccines.
> But much more needs to be done, and we will do it.
>
> Almost all the pro-med posters have gone from these newsgroups, except
> the most extreme ones, and nobody takes them seriously.  I almost miss
> the nut-cases like Pro-Bert and kooky Ann... I said ALMOST!!!!-

Like when you falsely portrayed yourself as a doctor and were kicked
off your ISP for that fraud?

As for the study, it is by the Geiers, who, in a manner of speaking,
make you look like Hippocrates.

But, only in a manner of speaking.

On Jun 27, 9:17 am, "Sir Arthur C.B.E. Wholeflaffers A.S.A."
<scie....RemoveThis@zzz.com> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 3:24 pm, "Jan Drew" <jdrew1....RemoveThis@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> > A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> > government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
> > alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
> > other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
> > only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
> > much as 35 percent.
>
> > Using the government's own databases, independent
> > researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
> > including autism, before and after removal of
> > mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
> > B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
> > the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
> > (VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
> > Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
> > Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
> > Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."
>
> > The numbers from California show that reported autism
> > rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
> > continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
> > than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
> > Geiers report that the number actually went down to
> > only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
> > decrease from the projections of 35 percent.
>
> > This analysis directly contradicts 2004
> > recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
> > examined vaccine safety data from the National
> > Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
> > willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
> > relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
> > soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
> > were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
> > the evidence favored rejection of a causal
> > relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
> > a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
> > that no further studies should be conducted to
> > evaluate it."
>
> > As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
> > schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
> > mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
> > the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
> > toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
> > Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
> > concentrations.
>
> > The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
> > as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
> > reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
> > underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
> > state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
> > administered there after it documented a 700-fold
> > increase in that state alone. California followed
> > suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.
>
> > Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
> > vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
> > recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
> > children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
> > which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
> > of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
> > the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
> > injected with mercury-containing vaccines.
>
> > The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
> > children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
> > 187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.
>
> > The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
> > concern, as it is still added to some of the most
> > commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.
>
> > Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
> > routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
> > U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
> > and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
> > the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
> > (NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
> > thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
> > safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
> > importance."
> > Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
> > the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
> > thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
> > children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
> > adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.
>
> This is an open and shut case, thank you for posting this.  Nobody can
> credibly question these studies, and nobody that has any integrity
> will. Our pro-human side have discredited the myth of ADD, ADHD and
> have demonstrably proven that autism is directly related to vaccines.
> But much more needs to be done, and we will do it.
>
> Almost all the pro-med posters have gone from these newsgroups, except
> the most extreme ones, and nobody takes them seriously.  I almost miss
> the nut-cases like Pro-Bert and kooky Ann... I said ALMOST!!!!

Thank goodness there are people out there who are aware
of the insults, misdirections and inexhaustible deceptions
of the gang of four INCLUDING Merc ProBERT.

Since I came to this newsgroup amidst insults
attacks and other impedimentia from the "gang",
after daring to make some posts that there
MIGHT, I repeat might be some scientific
support for the efficacy of Homeopathy,
I resolved to keep posting links and information
that indicate viable alternatives to standard medicine
as well as links and information that must
seriously call into question the unfortunate
alliance between commercial interests
and some areas of medical science.

The blind and total acceptance of the efficacy
of vaccinations is one of the things
I have begun to challenge and I am
very pleased that many young mothers,
as well as others of all age groups
and socio-economic strata, no longer
accept the endless propaganda and
media fear mongering which accompanies
yet MORE exhortations to get vaccinated.

Evidence of the rather serious correlations between rising
autism rates and other long term
deleterious consequences of vaccinations
have been met with the most hysterical
innuendo and obstinacy, coupled with the
usual attacks, misdirections and mis-statements
of the anti-alternative medicine puppets
who I have given the nickname the "aunties".

I shall continue posting despite the fact that
NEARLY EVERY thread I attempt to post
or start on an alternative medicine subject
is either subverted, misdirected or otherwise
diverted into directions unrelated to the topic
of the original posting.

Many Thanks
Citizen Jimserac

Citizen Jimserac <Jimserac.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Jun 26, 5:47 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....DeleteThis@ratbags.com> wrote:
>> CitizenJimserac<Jimse....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >On Jun 26, 9:21 am, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....DeleteThis@ratbags.com> wrote:
>> >> CitizenJimserac<Jimse....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >On Jun 25, 9:03 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn....DeleteThis@ratbags.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Mark Probert <mark.prob....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >> > Well it seems you were RIGHT...
>> >> >> >> er, EXCEPT THAT IS FOR THE FLU VACCINES!
>> >> >> >> (perhaps others too?)
>>
>> >> >> >No, idiot. Even the flu vaccine comes in a thimerosal free version.
>>
>> >> >> When I had my flu shot a few weeks back I WAS NOT GIVEN THE OPTION of
>> >> >> a mercury-free vaccine. I had to take what the doctor ordered.
>>
>> >> >> Bastards!!
>>
>> >> >> By the way - there was no mercury in it.
>>
>> >> >A young man, getting FLU shots??
>> >> >Do you have some susceptibility to it?
>>
>> >> Yes. It is a consequence of being human.
>>
>> >Well then, young human, would you reveal
>> >to us HOW MANY TIMES, exactly, you have
>> >had the flu in the past?
>>
>> Nonce.
>
>
>I prefer to "duck" it, when the time
>comes!

And if you can't duck it, perhaps you might choose to join the several
hundred thousand people why die each year from flu around the world.

The death toll in 1918-19 was only about 40 million, so fee free to
not worry about the disease. Perhaps a homeopathic preparation of snot
will help.

>
>Citizen Jimserac

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In message <192eec45-fcb4-45ad-9289-1c0c7f3ae275.DeleteThis@m73g2000hsh.googlegroups.com>, Citizen Jimserac wrote:

> Did you know that Homeopathy had a MUCH higher success rate
> in the 1918 influenza epidemic than the MD's attained?
> This is often rationalized that the MDs of that era lacked
> the proper drugs.  There may be something to that
> argument but it is HARDLY the full story.

No, as a matter of fact, I don't -- it's like a lot of
things that you "know:" without foundation.

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"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname.DeleteThis@ratbags.com> wrote:
> The death toll in 1918-19

Now, let's hear it *gang* whine about this date.........................
> --
> Peter Bowditch