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Jan Drew

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 6:24 pm
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http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml

A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
government's previous claims to the contrary.

An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
mercury was removed from childhood vaccines, the
alarming increase in reported rates of autism and
other neurological disorders (NDs) in children not
only stopped, but actually dropped sharply - by as
much as 35 percent.

Using the government's own databases, independent
researchers analyzed reports of childhood NDs,
including autism, before and after removal of
mercury-based preservatives. Authors David A. Geier,
B.A. and Mark R. Geier, M.D., Ph.D. analyze data from
the CDC's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System
(VAERS) and the California Department of Developmental
Services (CDDS) in "Early Downward Trends in
Neurodevelopmental Disorders Following Removal of
Thimerosal-Containing Vaccines."

The numbers from California show that reported autism
rates hit a high of 800 in May 2003. If that trend had
continued, the reports would have skyrocketed to more
than 1000 by the beginning of 2006. But in fact, the
Geiers report that the number actually went down to
only 620, a real decrease of 22 percent, and a
decrease from the projections of 35 percent.

This analysis directly contradicts 2004
recommendations of the Institute of Medicine which
examined vaccine safety data from the National
Immunization Program (NIP) of the CDC. While not
willing to either rule out or to corroborate a
relationship between mercury and autism, the IOM
soft-pedaled its findings, and decided no more studies
were needed. The authors write: "The IOM stated that
the evidence favored rejection of a causal
relationship between thimerosal and autism, that such
a relationship was not biologically plausible, and
that no further studies should be conducted to
evaluate it."

As more and more vaccines were added to the mandatory
schedule of vaccines for children, the dose of the
mercury-based preservative thimerosal rose, so that
the cumulative dose injected into babies exceeded the
toxic threshold set by many government agencies.
Mercury is known to damage nerve cells in very low
concentrations.

The concern about vaccines may actually be underrated,
as it is generally acknowledged that the voluntary
reporting of such disorders has resulted in vast
underreporting of new cases. For example, the Iowa
state legislature banned thimerosal from all vaccines
administered there after it documented a 700-fold
increase in that state alone. California followed
suit, and 32 states are considering doing so.

Up until about 1989 preschool children got only 3
vaccines (polio, DPT, MMR). By 1999 the CDC
recommended a total of 22 vaccines to be given before
children reach the 1st grade, including Hepatitis B,
which is given to newborns within the first 24 hours
of birth. Many of these vaccines contained mercury. In
the 1990s approximately 40 million children were
injected with mercury-containing vaccines.

The cumulative amount of mercury being given to
children in this number of vaccines would be an amount
187 times the EPA daily exposure limit.

The Geiers conclude that mercury continues to be a
concern, as it is still added to some of the most
commonly-used vaccines, such as those for flu.

Despite its removal from many childhood vaccines, thimerosal is still
routinely added to some formulations of influenza vaccine administered to
U.S. infants, as well as to several other vaccines (e.g. tetanus-diphtheria
and monovalent tetanus) administered to older children and adults. In 2004,
the Institute of Medicine (IOM) of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences
(NAS) retreated from the stated 1999 goal of the AAP and the PHS to remove
thimerosal from U.S. vaccines as soon as possible.As a result, assessing the
safety of TCVs [thimerosal-containing vaccines] is a matter of significant
importance."
Editor's Note: The new study confirms claims made by Dr. Russell Blaylock in
the Blaylock Wellness Report that childhood vaccines that contain
thimerosal, a mercury based preservative, could cause serious harm to
children, including autism. Dr. Blaylock has also warned that vaccines for
adults, such as the flu shot, pose dangers.
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:58 pm
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Jan Drew wrote:
> http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> government's previous claims to the contrary.

The study is over two years old.

> An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> mercury was removed from childhood vaccines,

Not a well-respected journal. The analysis is suspect, at best. They
used the slope of lines to determine whether or not there was a change
in the incidence of autism. I have never seen this methodology before.
However, the incidence of autism continued to rise through the end of
2005, after mercury was removed from vaccines. By 2001, vaccines were no
longer made that had mercury in them, so one would expect to see a
reduction in autism incidence by 2005.

Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than thought:
http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848

Jeff

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:58 pm
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On Jun 24, 6:58 pm, Jeff <kidsdoc2....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jan Drew wrote:
> >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> > A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> > government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> The study is over two years old.
>
> > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines,
>
> Not a well-respected journal. The analysis is suspect, at best. They
> used the slope of lines to determine whether or not there was a change
> in the incidence of autism. I have never seen this methodology before.
> However, the incidence of autism continued to rise through the end of
> 2005, after mercury was removed from vaccines. By 2001, vaccines were no
> longer made that had mercury in them, so one would expect to see a
> reduction in autism incidence by 2005.
>
> Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than thought:http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848
>
> Jeff
>
> <rest of copyrighted material deleted>

What a load of bullocks.

What the data shows is that ethylmercury, the organic mercury in
thimerosal, is rapidly depleted from the blood, but irreversably
deposited in the tissues and brains of the infants.

This paper is typical of the medical fraternity and demonstrates just
how incompetent they are to publish scientific data of any value.

Show us how much mercury was injected, show us how much was left in
the blood, then show us how much mercury came out in the urine and
feces. The remainder is still in the infants.

How can anyone look at these fools as medical gods when they publish
such garbage.

DrCee
You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jun 24, 2008 10:58 pm
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In message <0d8d9453-191c-4bdc-8ba9-4a8bea672414.DeleteThis@2g2000hsn.googlegroups.com>, drceephd.DeleteThis@insightbb.com wrote:

> What the data shows is that ethylmercury, the organic mercury in
> thimerosal, is rapidly depleted from the blood, but irreversably
> deposited in the tissues and brains of the infants.

"Data:" that word doesn't mean what you think it does.

Of course, if you have an actual *source* (besides your own
paranoid hallucinations) for the half-life of ethylmercury in
the brain, by all means post it.

> Show us how much mercury was injected, show us how much was left in
> the blood, then show us how much mercury came out in the urine and
> feces.  The remainder is still in the infants.

Or, in the case of monkeys, take samples from the brain and
measure it. Of course, you've previously denied that animal
models are relevant to human health.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:29 am
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Jeff wrote:
>
> Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than thought:
> http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848
>

So what?

From
http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20080130/vaccine-mercury-leaves...ood-fas
--- quote ---
One of the few researchers who studies the effects of ethyl mercury is
Thomas Burbacher, PhD, professor of environmental and occupational
health sciences and director of the infant primate research lab at the
National Primate Research Center, University of Washington, Seattle. <...>
"Just because it came out of the blood doesn't mean it is excreted from
the body. It could have gone to the brain," Burbacher tells WebMD.
"Although total mercury levels in the blood are lower following
thimerosal exposure [than following methyl mercury exposure], mercury in
the blood from thimerosal has an easier time getting to the brain than
methyl mercury."
--- end of quote ---

And this is what really matters: how much mercury got into the brain,
not how fast it went through the anus.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:47 am
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Mike wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
>>
>> Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than
>> thought: http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848
>>
>
> So what?
>
> From
> http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20080130/vaccine-mercury-leaves...ood-fas
>
> --- quote ---
> One of the few researchers who studies the effects of ethyl mercury is
> Thomas Burbacher, PhD, professor of environmental and occupational
> health sciences and director of the infant primate research lab at the
> National Primate Research Center, University of Washington, Seattle. <...>
> "Just because it came out of the blood doesn't mean it is excreted from
> the body. It could have gone to the brain," Burbacher tells WebMD.
> "Although total mercury levels in the blood are lower following
> thimerosal exposure [than following methyl mercury exposure], mercury in
> the blood from thimerosal has an easier time getting to the brain than
> methyl mercury."

Actually, that's incorrect. Ethyl mercury is pumped OUT of the brain.

It might get to the brain, but it doesn't get INTO the brain.

Jeff
> --- end of quote ---
>
> And this is what really matters: how much mercury got into the brain,
> not how fast it went through the anus.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 12:47 am
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"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:WAg8k.30$0f.28@trndny01...
> Mike wrote:
>> Jeff wrote:
>>>
>>> Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than thought:
>>> http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848
>>>
>>
>> So what?
>>
>> From
>> http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20080130/vaccine-mercury-leaves...ood-fas -
>> -- quote ---
>> One of the few researchers who studies the effects of ethyl mercury is
>> Thomas Burbacher, PhD, professor of environmental and occupational health
>> sciences and director of the infant primate research lab at the National
>> Primate Research Center, University of Washington, Seattle. <...>
>> "Just because it came out of the blood doesn't mean it is excreted from
>> the body. It could have gone to the brain," Burbacher tells WebMD.
>> "Although total mercury levels in the blood are lower following
>> thimerosal exposure [than following methyl mercury exposure], mercury in
>> the blood from thimerosal has an easier time getting to the brain than
>> methyl mercury."
>
> Actually, that's incorrect. Ethyl mercury is pumped OUT of the brain.
>
> It might get to the brain, but it doesn't get INTO the brain.
>
> Jeff

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2190116

Mercury neurotoxicity: mechanisms of blood-brain barrier transport.
Aschner M, Aschner JL.
Department of Pharmacology and Toxicology, Albany Medical College, NY 12208.

Mercury exists in a wide variety of physical and chemical states, each of
which has unique characteristics of target organ toxicity. The classic
symptoms associated with exposure to elemental mercury vapor (Hg0) and
methylmercury (CH3Hg+; MeHg) involve the central nervous system (CNS), while
the kidney is the target organ for the mono- and divalent salts of mercury
(Hg+ and Hg++, respectively). Physical properties and redox potentials
determine the qualitative and quantitative differences in toxicity among
inorganic mercury compounds, while the ability of MeHg to cross the
blood-brain barrier accounts for its accumulation in the CNS and a clinical
picture that is dominated by neurological disturbances. This review gives an
up-to-date account of mercury's physical and chemical properties and its
interaction with biologically active sites pertinent to transport across the
blood-brain barrier, a major regulator of the CNS millieu.

PMID: 2190116 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



Different Forms of Mercury and Differing Health Effects
Mercury occurs naturally in the environment and exists in several forms,
which can be organized under three headings: metallic mercury (i.e.,
elemental mercury-Hg 0, quicksilver), inorganic mercury (i.e., Hg +1
[mercurous salts] or Hg +2 [mercuric salts]), and organic mercury (i.e.,
methyl-, ethyl-, and phenylmercury). Because mercury's absorption and
metabolism depend on its chemical and physical form, it is important to
determine the form of mercury to which an individual is exposed. Different
forms of mercury can have differing health effects (e.g., absorption and
metabolism of different forms of mercury vary and, therefore, have different
effects on the nervous system). When metallic mercury vapors are inhaled,
they readily enter the bloodstream and cross the blood-brain barrier.
Inhaling or ingesting large amounts of methylmercury also results in some of
the mercury crossing the blood-brain barrier and affecting the nervous
system. Inorganic mercury salts, such as mercuric chloride, do not cross the
blood-brain barrier like methylmercury or metallic mercury vapor do. Mercury
affects other systems in addition to the nervous system (ATSDR 1999, 1992).

Poor Jeffrey Peter Joeshp Utz, notkidsdoc

>> --- end of quote ---
>>
>> And this is what really matters: how much mercury got into the brain, not
>> how fast it went through the anus.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 5:33 am
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On Jun 24, 6:58 pm, Jeff <kidsdoc2....DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Jan Drew wrote:
> >http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/2/213632.shtml
>
> > A new study shows that autism may be linked after all
> > to the use of mercury in childhood vaccines, despite
> > government's previous claims to the contrary.
>
> The study is over two years old.

Quite true, and is written by the Geiers, known and proven liars as
well documented by

http://epiwonk.com/index.php?s=geier

http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/?q=geier

BTW, the ability of the writer of the Neurodiversity weblog was
recently referred to by a federal magistrate as :...the extent of the
information which a highly-competent librarian like Ms. Seidel can,
and did, accumulate..." This was in an order where the anti-
vaccination lawyer Shoemaker was being sanctioned for unethical
behavior when he subpoenaed Ms. Seidel in a case where she was not a
litigant.

> > An article in the March 10, 2006, issue of the Journal
> > of American Physicians and Surgeons shows that since
> > mercury was removed from childhood vaccines,
>
> Not a well-respected journal.

Correct. Well documented at:

http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/91/


> The analysis is suspect, at best.

You give it far too much credit.

They
> used the slope of lines to determine whether or not there was a change
> in the incidence of autism. I have never seen this methodology before.
> However, the incidence of autism continued to rise through the end of
> 2005, after mercury was removed from vaccines. By 2001, vaccines were no
> longer made that had mercury in them, so one would expect to see a
> reduction in autism incidence by 2005.

That is what David Kirby said, until he moved the goalposts when it
did not happen as predicted.

> Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than thought:http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848

Correct. Excellent study.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 8:56 pm
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On Jun 25, 9:03 pm, Peter Bowditch <myfirstn... RemoveThis @ratbags.com> wrote:
> Mark Probert <mark.prob... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> > Well it seems you were RIGHT...
> >> er, EXCEPT THAT IS FOR THE FLU VACCINES!
> >> (perhaps others too?)
>
> >No, idiot. Even the flu vaccine comes in a thimerosal free version.
>
> When I had my flu shot a few weeks back I WAS NOT GIVEN THE OPTION of
> a mercury-free vaccine. I had to take what the doctor ordered.
>
> Bastards!!
>
> By the way - there was no mercury in it.
>

A young man, getting FLU shots??
Do you have some susceptibility to it?

Cit J.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 9:51 pm
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On Jun 25, 9:15 pm, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

> I just have to ask you one more time, Probee,
> WHAT IS THE PROBE-BA-BILITY that the thimessersal
> is harmless?
>
> Citizen Jimserac


Why don't we analyze it this way - (1) What childhood vaccines
continue to have thimerosol in them? (2) Has incidence of autism
continued to escallate in spite of thimerosol being removed from
childhood vaccines since 2001? (3) What is the PROBE-BA-BILITY that
Measles, Mumps, Diptheria, Chickenpox, and the litany of other
childhood diseases are harmless?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:10 pm
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> proven liars
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From: aloysio....RemoveThis@aol.com (AloysiousX)
Date: 07 Jan 2004 18:59:31 GMT
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I have no children, Sistah Jan.

As Salaam Aleikum, my Sistah!


AloysiousX

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Date: 06 Jan 2004 22:31:39 GMT
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You know something, Sistah Ilena, I'm not Mark Probert, but it's pretty
clear
who the coward is.

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Sistah Jan, I'd never heard of you until you made your post in the breast
implant group, much in the same way I'd never heard of Mark Probert until
Sistah Ilena mentioned him.

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> Subj: Is There Some Reason...> Date: 2/12/2004 2:18:07 PM Pacific Standard
> Time> From: AloysiousX> To: JDrew63929>>> Is there some reason why you
> won't let me ask you a few questions, Jan? > I'm> really curious about
> your involvement with Ilena Rosenthal.>>> But I guess my most basic
> question is whether or not you are in California> (like I am), or over in
> Indiana, like your profile says.>>> I had thought you were out west, but I
> guess not.>>> As Salaam Aleikum!>>> Aloysious>
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 11:53 pm
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Jeff wrote:
> Mike wrote:
>> Jeff wrote:
>>>
>>> Further, babies excrete mercury from vaccines more quickly than
>>> thought: http://www.urmc.rochester.edu/pr/news/story.cfm?id=1848
>>>
>>
>> So what?
>>
>> From
>> http://www.webmd.com/brain/autism/news/20080130/vaccine-mercury-leaves...ood-fas
>>
>> --- quote ---
>> One of the few researchers who studies the effects of ethyl mercury is
>> Thomas Burbacher, PhD, professor of environmental and occupational
>> health sciences and director of the infant primate research lab at the
>> National Primate Research Center, University of Washington, Seattle.
>> <...>
>> "Just because it came out of the blood doesn't mean it is excreted
>> from the body. It could have gone to the brain," Burbacher tells
>> WebMD. "Although total mercury levels in the blood are lower following
>> thimerosal exposure [than following methyl mercury exposure], mercury
>> in the blood from thimerosal has an easier time getting to the brain
>> than methyl mercury."
>
> Actually, that's incorrect. Ethyl mercury is pumped OUT of the brain.
>
> It might get to the brain, but it doesn't get INTO the brain.

Is it humor - gets TO the brain but is PUMPED before getting INTO the brain?

In case it is not humor, here is the link to the Burbacher study:

http://www.ehponline.org/realfiles/members/2005/7712/7712.pdf

Whether it gets TO the brain or INTO the brain, it remains IN the brain.

>
> Jeff
>> --- end of quote ---
>>
>> And this is what really matters: how much mercury got into the brain,
>> not how fast it went through the anus.
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Mark Probert <mark.probert RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> Well it seems you were RIGHT...
>> er, EXCEPT THAT IS FOR THE FLU VACCINES!
>> (perhaps others too?)
>
>No, idiot. Even the flu vaccine comes in a thimerosal free version.

When I had my flu shot a few weeks back I WAS NOT GIVEN THE OPTION of
a mercury-free vaccine. I had to take what the doctor ordered.

Bastards!!

By the way - there was no mercury in it.

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Ocd? Posting lies and spam EVERYTIME he posts

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