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D. C. Sessions

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(Msg. 61) Posted: Sun Jun 15, 2008 6:08 am
Post subject: Re: PETITION AGAINST FORCED VACCINES [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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In message <Ot15k.172$TL6.90@trnddc01>, Mike wrote:

> No, it is not because mumps is harder on adults than on children. Older
> adults occasionally die of mumps complications. For now, it is a rare
> event because non-immune old people are rare. Once there is a stronger
> supply of non-immune people, the mortality can be expected to rise.

Only if they are exposed.

That's rather the point of vaccination, though.

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Mark Probert

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(Msg. 62) Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2008 8:48 am
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On Jun 15, 1:09 am, Mike <m....DeleteThis@xyz.com> wrote:
> Mark Probert wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >> Let's test your alleged beliefs for consistency.
> >> 1. Should a minor be able to get a prescription drug (say, Ritalin) from
> >> a doctor without consent or knowledge of his / her parents? (And I do
> >> not mean accidents or other emergency situations or even abortions)
>
> > No.
>
> >> 2. Same question for a non-mandatory vaccine.
>
> > No.
>
> Great news!
>
> Now, as a children's and parent's advocate, would you please write to
> your state assembly person and express opposition to a certain provision
> of bill A10942 just introduced not in UK but in your very own New York
> State assembly. Here is a link for you.
>
> http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A10942&sh=t

This is the bill to amend and how it fits into existing law, in its
entirety is what is important. It is like reading out of context.


> Here is the provision (page 6):
>
> A licensed physician, or in a hospital, a staff physician, may diagnose,
> treat or prescribe CURATIVE OR PREVENTIVE TREATMENT  AGAINST SEXUALLY
> TRANSMISSIBLE  DISEASE OR INFECTION, INCLUDING VACCINES, for a person
> under the age of {twenty-one} EIGHTEEN years without the  consent or
> knowledge  of  the  parents  or  guardian of said person, where such
> person is infected with a sexually transmissible disease,  or  has  been
> exposed  to  infection  with  a sexually transmissible disease, OR IS AT
> RISK OF EXPOSURE TO A SEXUALLY TRANSMISSIBLE INFECTION.
>
> (capitals original; probably denote additions to the existing law)
>
> And who "is at risk of exposure"? Probably everybody. It does not say
> "imminent risk" (which would be even funny). So, this means that a
> 15-years old (or 12-years old) girl can get a Gardasil shot without her
> parents knowing about that (we will leave aside the payment issue).

The girl has the option of getting it. It is not mandatory. There are
circumstances where a girl's parents do not address the realityof
their daughter's behavior and, to deny the gir the option of getting
it may be a death sentence.

HOWEVER, if a girl is that promiscuous, I doubt that she would
actually get the shot anyway. I also note that this was introduced in
the Rules Committee, and not in the Health Committee. I wonder why?

> As somebody with a legal training you can propose desirable changes. As
> an additional public service you can post this letter in this groups.

I would like the girl referred for mandatory counseling, even withoput
parental permission, as she is seriously in need of intervention.
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Jan Drew

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Since: Dec 21, 2006
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(Msg. 63) Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2008 12:50 am
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"Mark Probert" <mark.probert.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e0cf46e9-ae4e-4d05-8eae-921dfee0a3cb@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com...
On Jun 15, 1:09 am, Mike <m....RemoveThis@xyz.com> wrote:
> Mark Probert wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> >> Let's test your alleged beliefs for consistency.
> >> 1. Should a minor be able to get a prescription drug (say, Ritalin)
> >> from
> >> a doctor without consent or knowledge of his / her parents? (And I do
> >> not mean accidents or other emergency situations or even abortions)
>
> > No.
>
> >> 2. Same question for a non-mandatory vaccine.
>
> > No.
>
> Great news!
>
> Now, as a children's and parent's advocate, would you please write to
> your state assembly person and express opposition to a certain provision
> of bill A10942 just introduced not in UK but in your very own New York
> State assembly. Here is a link for you.
>
> http://assembly.state.ny.us/leg/?bn=A10942&sh=t

This is the bill to amend and how it fits into existing law, in its
entirety is what is important. It is like reading out of context.

Poor Mark S Probert.

bill amended, ordered reprinted as amended and
recommitted to said committee

S 2. Subdivisions 3, 5 and 6, paragraph (a) of subdivision 7 and the
13 opening paragraph of subdivision 8-a of section 2164 of the
public
14 health law, as amended by chapter 189 of the laws of 2006, are
amended
15 to read as follows:<snip>

S 4. Section 2167 of the public health law is REPEALED.
56 S 5. This act shall take effect August 1, 2009.



> Here is the provision (page 6):
>
> A licensed physician, or in a hospital, a staff physician, may diagnose,
> treat or prescribe CURATIVE OR PREVENTIVE TREATMENT AGAINST SEXUALLY
> TRANSMISSIBLE DISEASE OR INFECTION, INCLUDING VACCINES, for a person
> under the age of {twenty-one} EIGHTEEN years without the consent or
> knowledge of the parents or guardian of said person, where such
> person is infected with a sexually transmissible disease, or has been
> exposed to infection with a sexually transmissible disease, OR IS AT
> RISK OF EXPOSURE TO A SEXUALLY TRANSMISSIBLE INFECTION.
>
> (capitals original; probably denote additions to the existing law)
>
> And who "is at risk of exposure"? Probably everybody. It does not say
> "imminent risk" (which would be even funny). So, this means that a
> 15-years old (or 12-years old) girl can get a Gardasil shot without her
> parents knowing about that (we will leave aside the payment issue).

The girl has the option of getting it.

===============
The parents are responsibile for their daughters.
They Choose. Not a MINOR.

It is not mandatory. There are
circumstances where a girl's parents do not address the realityof
their daughter's behavior and, to deny the gir the option of getting
it may be a death sentence.

HOWEVER, if a girl is that promiscuous, I doubt that she would
actually get the shot anyway. I also note that this was introduced in
the Rules Committee, and not in the Health Committee. I wonder why?

> As somebody with a legal training you can propose desirable changes. As
> an additional public service you can post this letter in this groups.

I would like the girl referred for mandatory counseling, even withoput
parental permission, as she is seriously in need of intervention.
=====================
Sure you would. ONLY--is it is not YOUR child.
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JOHN

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(Msg. 64) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:45 pm
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"D. C. Sessions" <dcs.TakeThisOut@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:69t4i5-kor.ln1@news.lumbercartel.com...
> In message <ycmdnWo4xqGfANrVnZ2dnUVZ8tLinZ2d.TakeThisOut@bt.com>, JOHN wrote:
>
>> Chickepox was recognised harmless in 1890 http://whale.to/v/chicken1.html
>
> Compared to smallpox, diphtheria, etc. it was. In 1890
> Great Britain "only" recorded 83 deaths from chicken pox.

they were disguised smallpox deaths http://whale.to/vaccine/smallpox5.html

"In 1886, for instance, there were 275 cases of small-pox deaths altogether
throughout England and Wales; there was only one vaccinated child that died
from small-pox under ten years of age, but there were 93 children who died
from "chicken-pox." (Laughter.) And the Registrar-General, in commenting
upon the fact, declared that nearly, if not all those cases should have been
registered as small-pox, because chicken-pox "never kills "---Dr Hadwen MD
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(Msg. 65) Posted: Tue Jul 01, 2008 5:45 pm
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In message <VPidnUKRLoSGwvfVnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d.RemoveThis@bt.com>, JOHN wrote:
> "D. C. Sessions" <dcs.RemoveThis@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
> news:69t4i5-kor.ln1@news.lumbercartel.com...
>> In message <ycmdnWo4xqGfANrVnZ2dnUVZ8tLinZ2d.RemoveThis@bt.com>, JOHN wrote:

>>> Chickepox was recognised harmless in 1890 http://whale.to/v/chicken1.html
>>
>> Compared to smallpox, diphtheria, etc. it was. In 1890
>> Great Britain "only" recorded 83 deaths from chicken pox.
>
> they were disguised smallpox deaths http://whale.to/vaccine/smallpox5.html
>
> "In 1886, for instance, there were 275 cases of small-pox deaths altogether
> throughout England and Wales; there was only one vaccinated child that died
> from small-pox under ten years of age, but there were 93 children who died
> from "chicken-pox." (Laughter.) And the Registrar-General, in commenting
> upon the fact, declared that nearly, if not all those cases should have been
> registered as small-pox, because chicken-pox "never kills "---Dr Hadwen MD

I see -- you prove that chicken pox "never kills" by redefining
chicken pox deaths (including those where the lesions extend
into the respiratory and central nervous systems) as something
else.

Then you say elsewhere that smallpox is harmless.

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| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against |
| unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct |
| before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson |
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