PETITION AGAINST FORCED VACCINES

"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>

Real one on HealthFraud list: Jeffrey Peter Joseph Utz, M.D.
jeff....TakeThisOut@juno.com
[2007] "Robert Watson" kidsdoc2....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com
Jeff Utz jtest-u....TakeThisOut@juno.com
Jeff Utz, M.D. jeff....TakeThisOut@juno.com
Jeffrey P. Utz, M.D. jeff....TakeThisOut@softhome.net Hence "Putz"
http://www.msu.edu/~utz/ u....TakeThisOut@pilot.msu.edu
Jeffrey Peter, M.D. kidsdoc2....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com
Wyle E. Coyote wyle_e_coyot....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com
Jeff Utz kidsdoc2....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (Jan 2003)
Jeff jef....TakeThisOut@pacbell.net
Jeff j....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (2007-2008)


wrote in message news:Tdl1k.2186$Yx.1172@trndny08...
> JOHN wrote:
>> http://whale.to/vaccine/petition_against_forced_vaccines.html
>>
>>
>> Dear All
>>
>>
>> Please sign this petition and/or please pass this on for others to sign:-
>>
>> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcedvaccines/
>> The government does not guarantee that your child, children or
>> grandchildren will not have a severe reaction to vaccines nor develop
>> long term chronic illness as a result.
>
> Your government does not guarantee that your child, children or
> grandchildren will not die from a vaccine preventable illness, either.
> However, getting them vaccinated is the best guarantee that is available.
>
> Jeff

As noted above Jeffery Peter Joseph Utz is not to be believe.
He is fooled by *organized medicine*.

Below is the truth about vaccinations, the government, the CDC, FDA and
*organized medicine*.

http://www.nvic.org/

Jan Drew wrote:
>
> "Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com>

<...>

>> Your government does not guarantee that your child, children or
>> grandchildren will not die from a vaccine preventable illness, either.
>> However, getting them vaccinated is the best guarantee that is available.
>>
>> Jeff
>
> As noted above Jeffery Peter Joseph Utz is not to be believe.

Learn English: The word is "Believed."

> He is fooled by *organized medicine*.
>
> Below is the truth about vaccinations, the government, the CDC, FDA and
> *organized medicine*.
>
> http://www.nvic.org/

ROTFL. Are you really that stupid to believe this organization? Right on
the top is a tab called "Lawyer Referral." That says more about the site
than anything else, IMHO.

Much more accurate information is available from www.cdc.gov the
Children's Hospital of Philadelphia's Vaccine Information center,
www.vaccine.chop.edu.

Unlike you, they are the people who have to treat the kids injured by
vaccine-preventable diseases.

Jeff

Jeff wrote:
> JOHN wrote:
>> http://whale.to/vaccine/petition_against_forced_vaccines.html
>>
>>
>> Dear All
>>
>>
>> Please sign this petition and/or please pass this on for others to sign:-
>>
>> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcedvaccines/
>> The government does not guarantee that your child, children or
>> grandchildren will not have a severe reaction to vaccines nor develop
>> long term chronic illness as a result.
>
> Your government does not guarantee that your child, children or
> grandchildren will not die from a vaccine preventable illness, either.
> However, getting them vaccinated is the best guarantee that is available.
>
> Jeff

The petition is to reject a proposal by a certain member of British
parliament to FORCE vaccinations in the UK. A quote:

"A Labour MP has recently suggested forcing all children to be
vaccinated otherwise they cannot attend school and parents should not
receive child benefits."

On Jun 3, 11:59 pm, Mike <m....TakeThisOut@xyz.com> wrote:
> Jeff wrote:
> > JOHN wrote:
> >>http://whale.to/vaccine/petition_against_forced_vaccines.html
>
> >> Dear All
>
> >> Please sign this petition and/or please pass this on for others to sign:-
>
> >>  http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcedvaccines/
> >> The government does not guarantee that your child, children or
> >> grandchildren will not have a severe reaction to vaccines nor develop
> >> long term chronic illness as a result.
>
> > Your government does not guarantee that your child, children or
> > grandchildren will not die from a vaccine preventable illness, either.
> > However, getting them vaccinated is the best guarantee that is available..
>
> > Jeff
>
> The petition is to reject a proposal by a certain member of British
> parliament to FORCE vaccinations in the UK. A quote:
>
> "A Labour MP has recently suggested forcing all children to be
> vaccinated otherwise they cannot attend school and parents should not
> receive child benefits."

While I am adamantly pro-vaccine, no child should be forced, in the
sense that they are physically made to be vaccinated.

What you describe is NOT force. It is giving the parents choices. The
parent can choose to vaccinate their child, or not be able to send
them to school or live off the other taxpayers. Remember, refusing
vaccination is made easier because of herd immunity, and this makes
being a freeloader more attractive.

wRight!


Jun 4, 8:28 am, "t" <tool... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> WRONG"Jeff" <kidsdoc2... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:Tdl1k.2186$Yx.1172@trndny08...
>
>
>
> > JOHN wrote:
> >>http://whale.to/vaccine/petition_against_forced_vaccines.html
>
> >> Dear All
>
> >> Please sign this petition and/or please pass this on for others to sign:-
>
> >>  http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcedvaccines/
> >> The government does not guarantee that your child, children or
> >> grandchildren will not have a severe reaction to vaccines nor develop
> >> long term chronic illness as a result.
>
> > Your government does not guarantee that your child, children or
> > grandchildren will not die from a vaccine preventable illness, either.
> > However, getting them vaccinated is the best guarantee that is available..
>
> > Jeff- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

WRONG
"Jeff" <kidsdoc2000.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Tdl1k.2186$Yx.1172@trndny08...
> JOHN wrote:
>> http://whale.to/vaccine/petition_against_forced_vaccines.html
>>
>>
>> Dear All
>>
>>
>> Please sign this petition and/or please pass this on for others to sign:-
>>
>> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcedvaccines/
>> The government does not guarantee that your child, children or
>> grandchildren will not have a severe reaction to vaccines nor develop
>> long term chronic illness as a result.
>
> Your government does not guarantee that your child, children or
> grandchildren will not die from a vaccine preventable illness, either.
> However, getting them vaccinated is the best guarantee that is available.
>
> Jeff

last forced vaccination in UK they had to get rid of when it became obvious
to the people it made things worse, and the rule of law was going to break
down with most people refusing to obey it

eg. smallpox epidemics followed high vaccination levels, over 90% had been
vaccinated, and it was killing 25,000 babies under 5 every year
http://whale.to/a/deathssmallpox.html

be interesting to see if this MP http://whale.to/vaccine/creagh_h.html is at
David Kirby's lecture this afternoon.

On Jun 3, 9:23 pm, "JOHN" <j... DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> http://whale.to/vaccine/petition_against_forced_vaccines.html
>
> Dear All
>
> Please sign this petition and/or please pass this on for others to sign:-
>
>  http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcedvaccines/
> The government does not guarantee that your child, children or grandchildren
> will not have a severe reaction to vaccines nor develop long term chronic
> illness as a result.   If your child does suffer harm, you can guarantee
> your child and your family will be dumped by the Department of Health and
> our government just like all the other children and their families in the
> past.
>
> There is also no provision to screen out and protect children at high risk
> of harm.
>
> Vaccines are like all medicines.  They do cause harm and our government
> fails to monitor the extent of that harm and covers it up.
>
> To check out the real risks of not being vaccinated and the real risk of
> autism and the truth about vaccination:-
>
>   Risk to Children & Government Scaremongering
>
>   Autism - 19 Kids A Day - 4 in 5 is a Boy
>
>   Mumps Vaccine "Unnecessary" Says BMA
>
>   Rubella Vaccine Unnecessary for Children
>
>   Measles - The Official Statistics
>
>   Tetanus - Pointless Vaccination
>
>   The Diphtheria Vaccine Myth
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----

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Once again probert is wrong. So what else is new?
"Mark Probert" <mark.probert DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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wRight!


Jun 4, 8:28 am, "t" <tool... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> WRONG"Jeff" <kidsdoc2... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:Tdl1k.2186$Yx.1172@trndny08...
>
>
>
> > JOHN wrote:
> >>http://whale.to/vaccine/petition_against_forced_vaccines.html
>
> >> Dear All
>
> >> Please sign this petition and/or please pass this on for others to
> >> sign:-
>
> >> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcedvaccines/
> >> The government does not guarantee that your child, children or
> >> grandchildren will not have a severe reaction to vaccines nor develop
> >> long term chronic illness as a result.
>
> > Your government does not guarantee that your child, children or
> > grandchildren will not die from a vaccine preventable illness, either.
> > However, getting them vaccinated is the best guarantee that is
> > available.
>
> > Jeff- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Jun 4, 10:03 am, "t" <tool... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> Once again probert is wrong. So what else is new?

Nothing, since you are consistently wrong.


"Mark Probert" <mark.prob... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:63ee20af-f0ee-4252-a90c-142286858370@59g2000hsb.googlegroups.com...
>
> wRight!
>
> Jun 4, 8:28 am, "t" <tool... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > WRONG"Jeff" <kidsdoc2... DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:Tdl1k.2186$Yx.1172@trndny08...
>
> > > JOHN wrote:
> > >>http://whale.to/vaccine/petition_against_forced_vaccines.html
>
> > >> Dear All
>
> > >> Please sign this petition and/or please pass this on for others to
> > >> sign:-
>
> > >>http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcedvaccines/
> > >> The government does not guarantee that your child, children or
> > >> grandchildren will not have a severe reaction to vaccines nor develop
> > >> long term chronic illness as a result.
>
> > > Your government does not guarantee that your child, children or
> > > grandchildren will not die from a vaccine preventable illness, either.
> > > However, getting them vaccinated is the best guarantee that is
> > > available.
>
> > > Jeff- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

John wrote:
>
last forced vaccination in UK they had to get rid of when it became
obvious
to the people it made things worse, and the rule of law was going to
break
down with most people refusing to obey it

eg. smallpox epidemics followed high vaccination levels, over 90% had
been
vaccinated, and it was killing 25,000 babies under 5 every year
http://whale.to/a/deathssmallpox.html

be interesting to see if this MP http://whale.to/vaccine/creagh_h.html
is at
David Kirby's lecture this afternoon.
>

The BAN against my responses to Valdeprobert
remains in effect but John's words
are overwhelming refutation of
Valdepropbert's unsound position on this.

Once the ban expires Valdeprobert
will have the opportunity of
attempting to refute this
and attempt to counter the unrelenting logic
of Citizen Jimserac, not before.

Excluding any additional ad hominems,
insults or emotional outbursts the current
ban expires in two days (...maybe).

Sorry!

Citizen Jimserac

I'm sure this has been said before, but at which point does the health of
the population mean nothing? If below a certain percentage do not get
vaccinated against very dangerous childhood diseases, then it will be very
bad indeed, very much worse than what one might think is being caused by the
injection.
I do agree that it would be wise to allow those who want to, to have them
seperately, but I prefer healthy people to dead ones or ones with severe
impairments and disabilities for life. The decision is, in my view a no
brainer when you look at the figures.

I do think the government is handling it badly and the result is what we are
beginning to see, epidemics of Measles etc coming back.

I was not inoculated but I do feel its public spirited to do so. It never
was a worry before. Nothing has really changed.

Brian

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"JOHN" <john.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:xKidna1Q56Be2NjVnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@bt.com...
> http://whale.to/vaccine/petition_against_forced_vaccines.html
>
>
> Dear All
>
>
> Please sign this petition and/or please pass this on for others to sign:-
>
> http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcedvaccines/
> The government does not guarantee that your child, children or
> grandchildren will not have a severe reaction to vaccines nor develop long
> term chronic illness as a result. If your child does suffer harm, you
> can guarantee your child and your family will be dumped by the Department
> of Health and our government just like all the other children and their
> families in the past.
>
> There is also no provision to screen out and protect children at high risk
> of harm.
>
> Vaccines are like all medicines. They do cause harm and our government
> fails to monitor the extent of that harm and covers it up.
>
> To check out the real risks of not being vaccinated and the real risk of
> autism and the truth about vaccination:-
>
> Risk to Children & Government Scaremongering
>
> Autism - 19 Kids A Day - 4 in 5 is a Boy
>
> Mumps Vaccine "Unnecessary" Says BMA
>
> Rubella Vaccine Unnecessary for Children
>
> Measles - The Official Statistics
>
> Tetanus - Pointless Vaccination
>
> The Diphtheria Vaccine Myth
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>

On Jun 4, 12:29 pm, "Brian Gaff" <bria....DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> I'm sure this has been said before, but at which point does the health of
> the population  mean nothing? If below a certain percentage do not get
> vaccinated against very dangerous childhood diseases,

Brian, the anti-vac liars, like John Scudamore, deny that childhood
diseases are even slightly dangerous. They go on and deny that
vaccines prevent these illnesses.

With that level of denial, what do you expect?

then  it will be very
> bad indeed, very much worse than what one might think is being caused by the
> injection.

See above. According to these merchants of disease, disability and
death, the vaccine reaction is always bad.

> I do agree that it would be wise to allow those who want to, to have them
> seperately, but I prefer healthy people to dead ones or ones with severe
> impairments and disabilities for life. The decision is, in my view a no
> brainer when you look at the figures.

However, the anti-vac liars are the ones looking, and they have no
brains.

> I do think the government is handling it badly and the result is what we are
> beginning to see, epidemics of Measles etc coming back.

Do not blame the government in the UK. It was started by the corrupt
Andy Wakefield and your media pushed it to the point with vaccine
uptake caused people to be scared.

> I was not  inoculated but I do feel its  public spirited to do so. It never
> was a worry before. Nothing has really changed.
>
> Brian
>
> --
> Brian Gaff - bria....DeleteThis@blueyonder.co.uk
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> Blind user, so no pictures please!"JOHN" <j....DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote in message
>
> news:xKidna1Q56Be2NjVnZ2dnUVZ8sninZ2d@bt.com...
>
>
>
> >http://whale.to/vaccine/petition_against_forced_vaccines.html
>
> > Dear All
>
> > Please sign this petition and/or please pass this on for others to sign:-
>
> >  http://petitions.pm.gov.uk/forcedvaccines/
> > The government does not guarantee that your child, children or
> > grandchildren will not have a severe reaction to vaccines nor develop long
> > term chronic illness as a result.   If your child does suffer harm, you
> > can guarantee your child and your family will be dumped by the Department
> > of Health and our government just like all the other children and their
> > families in the past.
>
> > There is also no provision to screen out and protect children at high risk
> > of harm.
>
> > Vaccines are like all medicines.  They do cause harm and our government
> > fails to monitor the extent of that harm and covers it up.
>
> > To check out the real risks of not being vaccinated and the real risk of
> > autism and the truth about vaccination:-
>
> >  Risk to Children & Government Scaremongering
>
> >  Autism - 19 Kids A Day - 4 in 5 is a Boy
>
> >  Mumps Vaccine "Unnecessary" Says BMA
>
> >  Rubella Vaccine Unnecessary for Children
>
> >  Measles - The Official Statistics
>
> >  Tetanus - Pointless Vaccination
>
> >  The Diphtheria Vaccine Myth
>
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------­------ Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -