Gret News-New vaccine reduces shots

On Jun 24, 6:27 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea... RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 2:13 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2008/06/23/New_pediatric_vaccine_reduc...
>
> > The pediatric combination vaccine -- approved for use in infants and
> > children 6 weeks through 4 years of age -- is indicated for active
> > immunization against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, poliomyelitis,
> > and invasive disease due to Haemophilus influenza type b (Hib). It
> > contains no thimerosal.
>
> > Pentacel vaccine is approved for administration as a four-dose series
> > at 2, 4, 6 and 15 to 18 months of age. The first dose may be given as
> > early as 6 weeks of age.
>
> > [...]
>
> > Pisano said the current recommended childhood immunization schedule of
> > the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta says up
> > to 23 injections are needed by the time a child reaches 18 months of
> > age with single-entity vaccines.
>
> > However the use of the Pentacel vaccine -- already approved in Canada
> > for a decade -- could reduce that number of shots by seven.
>
> > -------------
>
> > Cue the bleating and braying that their poor wittle, fragile, immune
> > systems cannot handle this. I do not expect anyone to actually prove
> > that.
>
> That's good news!  I don't think there should be any question that
> benefits of vaccinating children far outweigh any risk from them.  But
> from a health consummer stand point, anything pharmaseudical companies
> do to make vaccines safer is welcome news.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

How about admitting that vaccines are not safe, nor are they
effective.

I would consider that information welcome news.

DrCee
You cannot secure nor restore health with pus or poisons.

On Jun 24, 5:13 pm, drcee... DeleteThis @insightbb.com wrote:

> How about admitting that vaccines are not safe, nor are they
> effective.


Sorry DrCee, I can't do that!

Either you are too young to know a world before vaccines, or you are
too old and senile to remember!

In message <96c0143b-2a3b-4396-8f69-afcb5522cfbb.RemoveThis@z66g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>, drceephd.RemoveThis@insightbb.com wrote:

> How about admitting that vaccines are not safe, nor are they
> effective.
>
> I would consider that information welcome news.

Of course you would. Now go back to your fairy tales.

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"Myrl" <wisgroup_leader RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 24, 2:13 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2008/06/23/New_pediatric_vaccine_reduc...
>
> The pediatric combination vaccine -- approved for use in infants and
> children 6 weeks through 4 years of age -- is indicated for active
> immunization against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, poliomyelitis,
> and invasive disease due to Haemophilus influenza type b (Hib). It
> contains no thimerosal.
>
> Pentacel vaccine is approved for administration as a four-dose series
> at 2, 4, 6 and 15 to 18 months of age. The first dose may be given as
> early as 6 weeks of age.
>
> [...]
>
> Pisano said the current recommended childhood immunization schedule of
> the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta says up
> to 23 injections are needed by the time a child reaches 18 months of
> age with single-entity vaccines.
>
> However the use of the Pentacel vaccine -- already approved in Canada
> for a decade -- could reduce that number of shots by seven.
>
> -------------
>
> Cue the bleating and braying that their poor wittle, fragile, immune
> systems cannot handle this. I do not expect anyone to actually prove
> that.


That's good news! I don't think there should be any question that
benefits of vaccinating children far outweigh any risk from them. But
from a health consummer stand point, anything pharmaseudical companies
do to make vaccines safer is welcome news.


=================================
But, Myrl refused to answer if Mark S Probert is in FACT a proven
liar..............

>Andy posted his verse below ... apparently ignorant that he was the
>provoker ... not Jan.


My dictionary defines "provoker" as "someone who deliberately foments
trouble."
Posting a statement that you are going to ignore someone isn't one of
provocation, as it isn't made to "foment trouble." The statement was posted
explicitly to avoid trouble and alleviate trouble.

Isn't it funny how someone who just accused someone else of misusing a word
has
now been shown to have been misusing a word herself?



>Both Andy and Probert "reach out" to posters who don't go with their
>"program" in their attempts to "educate" them ... I just found a
>couple of messages from women telling me how after they posted here
>... Andy wrote them trying to "educate" them of how bad I am (LOL) ...
>nice job he has!


This is the provactive statement I referred to above, Sistah Ilena. It is
clearly provocative to make an accusation that someone has gone behind
someone
else's back to undermine their credibility and then not post any proof to
support that accusation, especially when the accused person has sworn not to
respond, and is thus unable to defend himself.

This is the kind of tactic you keep in your arsenal, and one of the reasons
why
I could in good conscience no longer support you.


So now I ask you, because Brother Langer cannot, to please share with us
your
proof of this accusation. Please, Sistah Ilena. I would like to see the
e-mails that Brother Langer sent to these women.


As Salaam Aleikum, my Sistah!


AloysiousX


****
That is Mark S Probert, Merrick,


FACT he lied.


http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/822d457...


Jan 6, 2004


You know something, Sistah Ilena, I'm not Mark Probert


http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/9b161d56a4...


Jun 7. 2008


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> Subj: Is There Some Reason...> Date: 2/12/2004 2:18:07 PM Pacific Standard
> Time> From: AloysiousX> To: JDrew63929>>> Is there some reason why you
> won't let me ask you a few questions, Jan? > I'm> really curious about
> your involvement with Ilena Rosenthal.>>> But I guess my most basic
> question is whether or not you are in California> (like I am), or over in
> Indiana, like your profile says.>>> I had thought you were out west, but I
> guess not.>>> As Salaam Aleikum!>>> Aloysious>
> Mark Probert markprobert1... RemoveThis @hotmail.com AloysiousX


==============================
Mark Probert doesn't lie--now--does he, Myrl Jeffcoat?
Now, don't forget to answer. Another Jan Drew Troll-o Meter
is not an an answer. Btw, look on the words internet Troll.

"Myrl" <wisgroup_leader RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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On Jun 24, 5:13 pm, drcee... RemoveThis @insightbb.com wrote:

> How about admitting that vaccines are not safe, nor are they
> effective.


Sorry DrCee, I can't do that!

-------------------------------------
Right, neither can Myrl answer my questions.

Either you are too young to know a world before vaccines, or you are
too old and senile to remember!

On Jun 24, 6:27 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea....DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jun 24, 2:13 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2008/06/23/New_pediatric_vaccine_reduc...
>
> > The pediatric combination vaccine -- approved for use in infants and
> > children 6 weeks through 4 years of age -- is indicated for active
> > immunization against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, poliomyelitis,
> > and invasive disease due to Haemophilus influenza type b (Hib). It
> > contains no thimerosal.
>
> > Pentacel vaccine is approved for administration as a four-dose series
> > at 2, 4, 6 and 15 to 18 months of age. The first dose may be given as
> > early as 6 weeks of age.
>
> > [...]
>
> > Pisano said the current recommended childhood immunization schedule of
> > the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta says up
> > to 23 injections are needed by the time a child reaches 18 months of
> > age with single-entity vaccines.
>
> > However the use of the Pentacel vaccine -- already approved in Canada
> > for a decade -- could reduce that number of shots by seven.
>
> > -------------
>
> > Cue the bleating and braying that their poor wittle, fragile, immune
> > systems cannot handle this. I do not expect anyone to actually prove
> > that.
>
> That's good news!  I don't think there should be any question that
> benefits of vaccinating children far outweigh any risk from them.

Oh, but there are those who question it. These people are properly
referred to as anti-vaccination merchants of disease, disability and
death.

 But
> from a health consummer stand point, anything pharmaseudical companies
> do to make vaccines safer is welcome news.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

On Jun 24, 8:13 pm, drcee....RemoveThis@insightbb.com wrote:
> On Jun 24, 6:27 pm, Myrl <wisgroup_lea....RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jun 24, 2:13 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob....RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2008/06/23/New_pediatric_vaccine_reduc....
>
> > > The pediatric combination vaccine -- approved for use in infants and
> > > children 6 weeks through 4 years of age -- is indicated for active
> > > immunization against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, poliomyelitis,
> > > and invasive disease due to Haemophilus influenza type b (Hib). It
> > > contains no thimerosal.
>
> > > Pentacel vaccine is approved for administration as a four-dose series
> > > at 2, 4, 6 and 15 to 18 months of age. The first dose may be given as
> > > early as 6 weeks of age.
>
> > > [...]
>
> > > Pisano said the current recommended childhood immunization schedule of
> > > the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta says up
> > > to 23 injections are needed by the time a child reaches 18 months of
> > > age with single-entity vaccines.
>
> > > However the use of the Pentacel vaccine -- already approved in Canada
> > > for a decade -- could reduce that number of shots by seven.
>
> > > -------------
>
> > > Cue the bleating and braying that their poor wittle, fragile, immune
> > > systems cannot handle this. I do not expect anyone to actually prove
> > > that.
>
> > That's good news!  I don't think there should be any question that
> > benefits of vaccinating children far outweigh any risk from them.  But
> > from a health consummer stand point, anything pharmaseudical companies
> > do to make vaccines safer is welcome news.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> How about admitting that vaccines are not safe, nor are they
> effective.
>
> I would consider that information welcome news.

It would be news, since it is not true.

> Dr-Pus-for-Brains Cee

On Jun 24, 5:13 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob....DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:
> http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2008/06/23/New_pediatric_vaccine_reduc...
>

> However the use of the Pentacel vaccine -- already approved in Canada
> for a decade -- could reduce that number of shots by seven.
>

We must applaud Mark Probert for finally admitting
that vaccines are dangerous and that it is therefore
of value to reduce the number of shots.

Hopefully, he will eventually see the light that
ANY vaccines have deleterious LONG TERM consequences,
something that the supportive reports, usually connected
with the vaccine industry, don't want to speak of.

It is things such as the long term use of vaccines
on large populations, along with the unwise and
excessive use of anti-biotics, that is weakening the
overall health and is the principle causative factor,
in my opinion, for the growth in certain illnesses
and cancers.

Mr. Probert remains blissfully unaware, or worse, UNINTERESTED,
in the long term consequences of the dangerous substances
he advocates for routine use on the general populations
yet, IN A MAJOR CONTRADICTION, becomes incensed and unreasonable
when mention is made of the remarkable curative effects
of Homeopathic medications, to this day the only
alternative medicine system whose medications are
regulated by the FDA.

In persisting in his unreasoning support of dangerous
standard therapies and in his hysterical denialism
of Homeopathy, Mr. Probert reveals himself to be
yet another of the "one way mirror" see things one way
only mentalities, the ideal mentality for "one size
fits ALL" medicine.

Citizen Jimserac
"Prove the Law of Similars" my dear Probert?
Take some cinchona, observe your reaction,
PROVE IT TO YOURSELF YOU DULLARD!

On Jun 25, 9:20 pm, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you have any idea WHAT PERCENT of those
> that DO NOT take the vaccines, actually get
> the illnesses that the vaccines are supposed to
> be protecting us all against?
>
> For example, measles.
>
> What per cent of the non-vaccinated children
> get it and of that SMALL percentage, how
> many need to be hospitalized?
>
> Citizen Jimserac



Try these facts on for size. They are from a more detailed article
at:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5708a3.htm

"Measles now is uncommon in the United States. In the prevaccine era,
3 to 4 million measles cases occurred every year, resulting in
approximately 450 deaths, 28,000 hospitalizations, and 1,000 children
with chronic disabilities from measles encephalitis. Because of
successful implementation of measles vaccination programs, fewer than
100 measles cases are now reported annually in the United States and
virtually all of those are linked to imported cases (2,3), reflecting
the incidence of measles globally and travel patterns of U.S.
residents and visitors. During 2006--2007, importations were most
common from India, Japan, and countries in Europe, where measles
transmission remains endemic and large outbreaks have occurred in
recent years (CDC, unpublished data, 2008). Since November 2006,
Switzerland has experienced that country's largest measles outbreak
since introduction of mandatory notification for measles in 1999
(1)."

"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374.TakeThisOut@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> "Myrl" <wisgroup_leader.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:a1e4da1e-04f0-4493-9e80-70ab6434ed85@w34g2000prm.googlegroups.com...
> On Jun 24, 2:13 pm, Mark Probert <mark.prob....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
>> http://www.upi.com/Health_News/2008/06/23/New_pediatric_vaccine_reduc...
>>
>> The pediatric combination vaccine -- approved for use in infants and
>> children 6 weeks through 4 years of age -- is indicated for active
>> immunization against diphtheria, tetanus, pertussis, poliomyelitis,
>> and invasive disease due to Haemophilus influenza type b (Hib). It
>> contains no thimerosal.
>>
>> Pentacel vaccine is approved for administration as a four-dose series
>> at 2, 4, 6 and 15 to 18 months of age. The first dose may be given as
>> early as 6 weeks of age.
>>
>> [...]
>>
>> Pisano said the current recommended childhood immunization schedule of
>> the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta says up
>> to 23 injections are needed by the time a child reaches 18 months of
>> age with single-entity vaccines.
>>
>> However the use of the Pentacel vaccine -- already approved in Canada
>> for a decade -- could reduce that number of shots by seven.
>>
>> -------------
>>
>> Cue the bleating and braying that their poor wittle, fragile, immune
>> systems cannot handle this. I do not expect anyone to actually prove
>> that.
>
>
> That's good news! I don't think there should be any question that
> benefits of vaccinating children far outweigh any risk from them. But
> from a health consummer stand point, anything pharmaseudical companies
> do to make vaccines safer is welcome news.
>
>
> =================================
> But, Myrl refused to answer if Mark S Probert is in FACT a proven
> liar..............
>
>>Andy posted his verse below ... apparently ignorant that he was the
>>provoker ... not Jan.
>
>
> My dictionary defines "provoker" as "someone who deliberately foments
> trouble."
> Posting a statement that you are going to ignore someone isn't one of
> provocation, as it isn't made to "foment trouble." The statement was
> posted
> explicitly to avoid trouble and alleviate trouble.
>
> Isn't it funny how someone who just accused someone else of misusing a
> word
> has
> now been shown to have been misusing a word herself?
>
>
>
>>Both Andy and Probert "reach out" to posters who don't go with their
>>"program" in their attempts to "educate" them ... I just found a
>>couple of messages from women telling me how after they posted here
>>... Andy wrote them trying to "educate" them of how bad I am (LOL) ...
>>nice job he has!
>
>
> This is the provactive statement I referred to above, Sistah Ilena. It is
> clearly provocative to make an accusation that someone has gone behind
> someone
> else's back to undermine their credibility and then not post any proof to
> support that accusation, especially when the accused person has sworn not
> to
> respond, and is thus unable to defend himself.
>
> This is the kind of tactic you keep in your arsenal, and one of the
> reasons
> why
> I could in good conscience no longer support you.
>
>
> So now I ask you, because Brother Langer cannot, to please share with us
> your
> proof of this accusation. Please, Sistah Ilena. I would like to see the
> e-mails that Brother Langer sent to these women.
>
>
> As Salaam Aleikum, my Sistah!
>
>
> AloysiousX
>
>
> ****
> That is Mark S Probert, Merrick,
>
>
> FACT he lied.
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.support.breast-implant/msg/822d457...
>
>
> Jan 6, 2004
>
>
> You know something, Sistah Ilena, I'm not Mark Probert
>
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/9b161d56a4...
>
>
> Jun 7. 2008
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> Date: 06 Jan 2004 17:54:38 GMT
> References: <19faaec.0401060908.68a7....TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>
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>
>
>
>> Subj: Is There Some Reason...> Date: 2/12/2004 2:18:07 PM Pacific
>> Standard
>> Time> From: AloysiousX> To: JDrew63929>>> Is there some reason why you
>> won't let me ask you a few questions, Jan? > I'm> really curious about
>> your involvement with Ilena Rosenthal.>>> But I guess my most basic
>> question is whether or not you are in California> (like I am), or over in
>> Indiana, like your profile says.>>> I had thought you were out west, but
>> I
>> guess not.>>> As Salaam Aleikum!>>> Aloysious>
>> Mark Probert markprobert1....TakeThisOut@hotmail.com AloysiousX
>
>
> ==============================
> Mark Probert doesn't lie--now--does he, Myrl Jeffcoat?
> Now, don't forget to answer. Another Jan Drew Troll-o Meter
> is not an an answer. Btw, look on the words internet Troll.
>

On Jun 26, 9:39 am, Mark Probert <mark.prob... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> > when mention is made of the remarkable curative effects
> > of Homeopathic medications, to this day the only
> > alternative medicine system whose medications are
> > regulated by the FDA.
>
> One day we will wake up and realize that the FDA has to be given
> broader powers and sharper teeth.
>
> > In persisting in his unreasoning support of dangerous
> > standard therapies and in his hysterical denialism
> > of Homeopathy, Mr. Probert reveals himself to be
> > yet another of the "one way mirror" see things one way
> > only mentalities, the ideal mentality for "one size
> > fits ALL" medicine.
>

One size fits ALL medicine, treat symptoms, invent new diseases,
sell LOTS of pills and vaccines based on FEARMONGERING...
THAT is the type of medicine that you and your every
post represent. A disgrace.

DULLARD, probably does not even know there is anything
better and shuts his mind off (if there is still one left)
when confronted with alternatives.

ONE SIZE FITS ALL, ONE THINK, ABSOLUTE CONTROL,
MAKE THE FDA STRONGER -> YOU FIT IN EXACTLY
WITH THE MEDICALIST TOTALITARIANS who seek
control over the rights of individuals to make medical
choices.

Citizen Jimserac

In message <d3db6777-96a0-4925-b207-79dd461cce21.DeleteThis@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>, Citizen Jimserac wrote:

> Do you have any idea WHAT PERCENT of those
> that DO NOT take the vaccines, actually get
> the illnesses that the vaccines are supposed to
> be protecting us all against?
>
> For example, measles.
>
> What per cent of the non-vaccinated children
> get it and of that SMALL percentage, how
> many need to be hospitalized?

Once exposed, for instance by contact with a playmate
returned from a trip to Switzerland, it's pretty close
to 100%.

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| "Ridicule is the only weapon which can be used against |
| unintelligible propositions. Ideas must be distinct |
| before reason can act on them" -- Thomas Jefferson |
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"Myrl" <wisgroup_leader RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jun 25, 9:20 pm, Citizen Jimserac <Jimse... RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

> Do you have any idea WHAT PERCENT of those
> that DO NOT take the vaccines, actually get
> the illnesses that the vaccines are supposed to
> be protecting us all against?
>
> For example, measles.
>
> What per cent of the non-vaccinated children
> get it and of that SMALL percentage, how
> many need to be hospitalized?
>
> Citizen Jimserac



Try these facts on for size. They are from a more detailed article
at:

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5708a3.htm

CDC - gov

*Organized medicine*.

Poor Myrl Jeffcoat.
Mostly likely to be followed by another troll meter.