AAP President Tells Giant Easily Disprovable Mistruth

"JOHN" <john DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> [Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
> been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
> relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and
> we know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95%
> range we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country
> of measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still
> endemic. So its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr.
> David Tayloe, President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
> http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/aap-president-tells-gia...easily.
>
>
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"Mark Probert" <mark.probert DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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On Aug 10, 5:19 am, "JOHN" <j... DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote:
> [Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
> been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
> relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and
> we
> know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
> we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
> measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic.
> So
> its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David
> Tayloe,
> President Elect of the American Academy of
> Pediatricshttp://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/aap-president...lls-gi.

Try to prove it is a lie. Use credible sources, none of which can be
found and whale.to, the Internet largest suppository of mis and false
information.

http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/aap-president-tells-gia...easily.

Proven lies beyond any doubt.

In article <CYednRCIq9wZLwPVnZ2dnUVZ8gidnZ2d.RemoveThis@bt.com>,
JOHN <john.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>[Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
>been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
>relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and we
>know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
>we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
>measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic. So
>its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David Tayloe,
>President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
>http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/aap-president-tells-giant-easily.html

Try "big whopping truth." That you can't handle the truth is your
problem, not the doctor's.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers."
-- John Dolan

"David Wright" <wright.DeleteThis@l1000.prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> In article <CYednRCIq9wZLwPVnZ2dnUVZ8gidnZ2d.DeleteThis@bt.com>,
> JOHN <john.DeleteThis@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>[Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
>>been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
>>relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and
>>we
>>know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
>>we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
>>measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic.
>>So
>>its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David
>>Tayloe,
>>President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
>>http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/aap-president-tells-giant-easily.html
>
> Try "big whopping truth."

> you

Are not the subject.

> -- David Wright
>

"David Wright" <wright.RemoveThis@l1000.prodigy.net> wrote in message
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> In article <CYednRCIq9wZLwPVnZ2dnUVZ8gidnZ2d.RemoveThis@bt.com>,
> JOHN <john.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:
>>
>>[Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
>>been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
>>relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and
>>we
>>know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
>>we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
>>measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic.
>>So
>>its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David
>>Tayloe,
>>President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
>>http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/aap-president-tells-giant-easily.html
>
> Try "big whopping truth." That you can't handle the truth is your
> problem, not the doctor's.
>

try reading before you shout your mouth off

you got out of my killfile to tell me that?

http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/aap-president-tells-gia...easily.

David Wright wrote:
> In article <CYednRCIq9wZLwPVnZ2dnUVZ8gidnZ2d.TakeThisOut@bt.com>,
> JOHN <john.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
>> [Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
>> been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
>> relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and we
>> know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
>> we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
>> measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic. So
>> its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David Tayloe,
>> President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
>> http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/aap-president-tells-gia...easily.
>
> Try "big whopping truth." That you can't handle the truth is your
> problem, not the doctor's.

The point of the article (that you did not read of course) is that there
is Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. The article has a link to
http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/table.htm
which lists kinds of injuries KNOWN to be possible after various
vaccinations (like anaphylactic shock or worse, even death). The author
of the article suggests that if a possible side effect of a particular
vaccine is death (for example) then the vaccine cannot be considered
safe.

The author also quotes the information sheets inserted in the vaccine
packages, like these:
**************************************************************
ENGERIX-B has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic
potential, or for impairment of fertility."
**************************************************************
Although no causal relationship has been established, rare instances of
exacerbation of multiple sclerosis have been reported following
administration of hepatitis B vaccines and other vaccines.
**************************************************************


It is not compatible with bland pronouncement
"... vaccines we have today have been tested and proven to be safe".
So the author calls it, rightly, an easily disprovable lie, and a very
stupid one. Had the doctor said instead "proven to be mostly safe for
most children" it would probably be true (though I am not 100% sure).
But this is not what he said.

In article <GE6ok.644$mP.612@trnddc03>, Mike <Mike.RemoveThis@xyz.xxx> wrote:
>David Wright wrote:
>> In article <CYednRCIq9wZLwPVnZ2dnUVZ8gidnZ2d.RemoveThis@bt.com>,
>> JOHN <john.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> [Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
>>> been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
>>> relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and we
>>> know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
>>> we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
>>> measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic. So
>>> its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David Tayloe,
>>> President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
>>>
>http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/aap-president-tells-giant-easily.html
>>
>> Try "big whopping truth." That you can't handle the truth is your
>> problem, not the doctor's.
>
>The point of the article (that you did not read of course) is that there
>is Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. The article has a link to
>http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/table.htm
>which lists kinds of injuries KNOWN to be possible after various
>vaccinations (like anaphylactic shock or worse, even death). The author
>of the article suggests that if a possible side effect of a particular
>vaccine is death (for example) then the vaccine cannot be considered
>safe.

If your seat belt happened to slide in just the wrong way during a
crash, it could probably break your neck. Therefore, seat belts
aren't safe. Be sure not to wear yours whenever you drive.


>The author also quotes the information sheets inserted in the vaccine
>packages, like these:
>**************************************************************
>ENGERIX-B has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic
>potential, or for impairment of fertility."
>**************************************************************
>Although no causal relationship has been established, rare instances of
>exacerbation of multiple sclerosis have been reported following
>administration of hepatitis B vaccines and other vaccines.
>**************************************************************
>
>It is not compatible with bland pronouncement
>"... vaccines we have today have been tested and proven to be safe".

Oh, are you expecting anything in your life to be 100% safe? In that
case, you might as well kill yourself now and avoid all the
disappointment.

>So the author calls it, rightly, an easily disprovable lie, and a very
>stupid one. Had the doctor said instead "proven to be mostly safe for
>most children" it would probably be true (though I am not 100% sure).
>But this is not what he said.

"Safe" is obviously shorthand for your much longer version in the
preceding paragraph; it doesn't mean "100% safe," as should be obvious
to anyone with an IQ over 90. Some people just have to have
everything spelled out for them.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers."
-- John Dolan

"Mike" <Mike.TakeThisOut@xyz.xxx> wrote in message news:GE6ok.644$mP.612@trnddc03...
> David Wright wrote:
>> In article <CYednRCIq9wZLwPVnZ2dnUVZ8gidnZ2d.TakeThisOut@bt.com>,
>> JOHN <john.TakeThisOut@nospam.com> wrote:
>>> [Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
>>> been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show
>>> any relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this
>>> and we know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to
>>> 95% range we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this
>>> country of measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are
>>> still endemic. So its very important that we vaccinate all our
>>> children."----Dr. David Tayloe, President Elect of the American Academy
>>> of Pediatrics
>>> http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/aap-president-tells-gia...easily.
>>
>> Try "big whopping truth." That you can't handle the truth is your
>> problem, not the doctor's.
>
> The point of the article (that you did not read of course) is that there
> is Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. The article has a link to
> http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/table.htm
> which lists kinds of injuries KNOWN to be possible after various
> vaccinations (like anaphylactic shock or worse, even death). The author
> of the article suggests that if a possible side effect of a particular
> vaccine is death (for example) then the vaccine cannot be considered
> safe.
>
> The author also quotes the information sheets inserted in the vaccine
> packages, like these:
> **************************************************************
> ENGERIX-B has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic
> potential, or for impairment of fertility."
> **************************************************************
> Although no causal relationship has been established, rare instances of
> exacerbation of multiple sclerosis have been reported following
> administration of hepatitis B vaccines and other vaccines.
> **************************************************************
>
>
> It is not compatible with bland pronouncement
> "... vaccines we have today have been tested and proven to be safe".
> So the author calls it, rightly, an easily disprovable lie, and a very
> stupid one. Had the doctor said instead "proven to be mostly safe for
> most children" it would probably be true (though I am not 100% sure).
> But this is not what he said.

Does that justify you boring untold thousands of people half to death?
--
Andrew

The trick when dealing with cross-posting idiots is to reply to every group
*except your own* - So while I apologise for this cross post, you now know
what to do.
http://www.flayme.com/

David Wright wrote:
> In article <GE6ok.644$mP.612@trnddc03>, Mike <Mike.RemoveThis@xyz.xxx> wrote:
>> David Wright wrote:
>>> In article <CYednRCIq9wZLwPVnZ2dnUVZ8gidnZ2d.RemoveThis@bt.com>,
>>> JOHN <john.RemoveThis@nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> [Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
>>>> been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
>>>> relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor this and we
>>>> know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
>>>> we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
>>>> measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still endemic. So
>>>> its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr. David Tayloe,
>>>> President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
>>>>
>> http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/aap-president-tells-gia...easily.
>>> Try "big whopping truth." That you can't handle the truth is your
>>> problem, not the doctor's.
>> The point of the article (that you did not read of course) is that there
>> is Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. The article has a link to
>> http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/table.htm
>> which lists kinds of injuries KNOWN to be possible after various
>> vaccinations (like anaphylactic shock or worse, even death). The author
>> of the article suggests that if a possible side effect of a particular
>> vaccine is death (for example) then the vaccine cannot be considered
>> safe.
>
> If your seat belt happened to slide in just the wrong way during a
> crash, it could probably break your neck. Therefore, seat belts
> aren't safe. Be sure not to wear yours whenever you drive.
>

If I do not use it correctly it does not make it unsafe.
But the vaccines were administered correctly.

>
>> The author also quotes the information sheets inserted in the vaccine
>> packages, like these:
>> **************************************************************
>> ENGERIX-B has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic
>> potential, or for impairment of fertility."
>> **************************************************************
>> Although no causal relationship has been established, rare instances of
>> exacerbation of multiple sclerosis have been reported following
>> administration of hepatitis B vaccines and other vaccines.
>> **************************************************************
>>
>> It is not compatible with bland pronouncement
>> "... vaccines we have today have been tested and proven to be safe".
>
> Oh, are you expecting anything in your life to be 100% safe? In that
> case, you might as well kill yourself now and avoid all the
> disappointment.
>
>> So the author calls it, rightly, an easily disprovable lie, and a very
>> stupid one. Had the doctor said instead "proven to be mostly safe for
>> most children" it would probably be true (though I am not 100% sure).
>> But this is not what he said.
>
> "Safe" is obviously shorthand for your much longer version in the
> preceding paragraph; it doesn't mean "100% safe," as should be obvious
> to anyone with an IQ over 90. Some people just have to have
> everything spelled out for them.

Would you use seat belts that are just "mostly safe for most people"?
Or you would prefer "100% safe" seat belts? How about letting
your child use "mostly safe" seat belts that are being recalled
even before any incidents? Such seat belts are called, you know,
defective, not safe.

>
> -- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
> These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
> "There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers."
> -- John Dolan
>

"Mike" <Mike DeleteThis @xyz.xxx> :
> Would you use seat belts that are just "mostly safe for most people"?
> Or you would prefer "100% safe" seat belts? How about letting
> your child use "mostly safe" seat belts that are being recalled
> even before any incidents? Such seat belts are called, you know,
> defective, not safe.

Pedants rule, at least in their heads.
--
Andrew

The trick when dealing with cross-posting idiots is to reply to every group
*except your own*, and kill file the idiot. So while I apologise for this
cross post, you now know what to do.
http://www.flayme.com/

In article <7wsok.881$T91.452@trnddc04>, Mike <Mike DeleteThis @xyz.xxx> wrote:
>David Wright wrote:
>> In article <GE6ok.644$mP.612@trnddc03>, Mike <Mike DeleteThis @xyz.xxx> wrote:
>>> David Wright wrote:
>>>> In article <CYednRCIq9wZLwPVnZ2dnUVZ8gidnZ2d DeleteThis @bt.com>,
>>>> JOHN <john DeleteThis @nospam.com> wrote:
>>>>> [Big whopping lie.] "Yes. I think any of the vaccines we have today have
>>>>> been tested and proven to be safe, and the credible studies don't show any
>>>>> relationship between vaccines and permanent injury. So we favor
>this and we
>>>>> know that unless we have vaccination rates that are in the 90 to 95% range
>>>>> we are not going to prevent epidemics from coming into this country of
>>>>> measles, of polio, from countries where these diseases are still
>endemic. So
>>>>> its very important that we vaccinate all our children."----Dr.
>David Tayloe,
>>>>> President Elect of the American Academy of Pediatrics
>>>>>
>>>
>http://adventuresinautism.blogspot.com/2008/03/aap-president-tells-giant-easily.html
>>>> Try "big whopping truth." That you can't handle the truth is your
>>>> problem, not the doctor's.
>>> The point of the article (that you did not read of course) is that there
>>> is Vaccine Injury Compensation Program. The article has a link to
>>> http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/table.htm
>>> which lists kinds of injuries KNOWN to be possible after various
>>> vaccinations (like anaphylactic shock or worse, even death). The author
>>> of the article suggests that if a possible side effect of a particular
>>> vaccine is death (for example) then the vaccine cannot be considered
>>> safe.
>>
>> If your seat belt happened to slide in just the wrong way during a
>> crash, it could probably break your neck. Therefore, seat belts
>> aren't safe. Be sure not to wear yours whenever you drive.
>>
>
>If I do not use it correctly it does not make it unsafe.
>But the vaccines were administered correctly.

Yes -- I guess it comes as an incredible shock to you that something
used correctly might not be 100% safe. Truly astonishing.

>>> The author also quotes the information sheets inserted in the vaccine
>>> packages, like these:
>>> **************************************************************
>>> ENGERIX-B has not been evaluated for carcinogenic or mutagenic
>>> potential, or for impairment of fertility."
>>> **************************************************************
>>> Although no causal relationship has been established, rare instances of
>>> exacerbation of multiple sclerosis have been reported following
>>> administration of hepatitis B vaccines and other vaccines.
>>> **************************************************************
>>>
>>> It is not compatible with bland pronouncement
>>> "... vaccines we have today have been tested and proven to be safe".
>>
>> Oh, are you expecting anything in your life to be 100% safe? In that
>> case, you might as well kill yourself now and avoid all the
>> disappointment.
>>
>>> So the author calls it, rightly, an easily disprovable lie, and a very
>>> stupid one. Had the doctor said instead "proven to be mostly safe for
>>> most children" it would probably be true (though I am not 100% sure).
>>> But this is not what he said.
>>
>> "Safe" is obviously shorthand for your much longer version in the
>> preceding paragraph; it doesn't mean "100% safe," as should be obvious
>> to anyone with an IQ over 90. Some people just have to have
>> everything spelled out for them.
>
>Would you use seat belts that are just "mostly safe for most people"?
>Or you would prefer "100% safe" seat belts? How about letting
>your child use "mostly safe" seat belts that are being recalled
>even before any incidents? Such seat belts are called, you know,
>defective, not safe.

I would prefer 100% safe seat belts, along with 100% safe other
products. I don't know of any products that meet the definition.
If you do, please feel free to speak up.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at copper.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"There are two kinds of Republicans: millionaires and suckers."
-- John Dolan